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Red and Black Game Notes

With the annual G-Day festivities behind us, it's time to take a look at what (little) we can learn from Saturday's activities. In no particular order . . .

Logan Gray looked really good. Not so much his running(which wouldn't be a surprise), but his footwork and mechanics in the pocket. Logan has what I would term very "quiet" feet. That is, he gets back into his drops and doesn't unnecessarily chop and shuffle his feet. The deep throw that Izzy Troupe dropped in the first half was about as on the money as that throw gets, and he delivered the ball with good power.

Speaking of Troupe, Zack Mettenberger almost decapitated him on a 7 yard in route. Because throwing 95 mph fastballs on short routes is pretty much what freshman quarterbacks do. Matthew Stafford elevated it into an artform at one point. Aaron Murray is way ahead of Mettenberger in the pocket at this point, and I have to think Mettenberger is the more likely of the two to redshirt.

What dropped passes? I must have been in the restroom when that happened  . . .whistling past the graveyard . . . nothing to see here . . .move along . . .

Kirk Herbstreit summed up Joe Cox's game in one sentence during the second quarter: "When Joe Cox is in rhythm he can put the ball exactly where you want him to put it." The Senator opines that Cox may not be JT3, but he's not D.J. Shockley either. 

For my part I suspect early April may be a tad too soon to make such an assessment. Let's not forget that D.J. Shockley (inconsistent, oft-injured backup)  wasn't really D.J. Shockley (insert hushed reverence here) either until he won an S.E.C. Championship (or at least until he dismantled Boise State like they were Dan Hawkins' Intramural All-Stars). The Senator is dead right however  that Cox doesn't have great arm strength either. But then again, now is as good a time as any to come to the realization that we may never again see a quarterback in Athens with the kind of shoulder cannon Matthew Stafford hauled around. That particular genetic lottery ball drops about three times a decade, and the odds are good that the lucky kid with that gift is going to matriculate somewhere else.

While it's not David Greene level, I noticed Joe Cox has a pretty decent play action fake. I'm betting that gets put to use early and often this season, since the Ginger Assassin is not going to be using his superhuman arm strength to thread the needle. He'll need other ways to create the necessary separation downfield, a la that other #14.

I really miss seeing Knowshon bounce up after every play. I'll miss that more than the high flying antics, and I'm betting our offense will too. While Caleb King was workmanlike, he just doesn't have that burst that Knowshon Rockwell Moreno did. Carlton Thomas is jitterbug quick, but just doesn't have the lower body strength and balance at this point to stay on his feet after the second and third hits. He's too explosive not to get on the field, however. Herbstreit says there won't be a significant dropoff at tailback. Right now, I simply cannot agree with him. But until Richard Samuel returns and the offensive line reaches some level of consistency, meaningful comparison will be impossible.

Matt Stinchcomb would be way better than Thom Thumb Brennamen as either a play-by-play or color guy. Or hotdog vendor. Or vascular surgeon. I almost died when I heard him say that last year we were playing "musical meatheads" on the offensive line, and that when he was Murray and Mettenberger's age his biggest decision was "vest or cummerbund". Again, the fact that Matt Stinchcomb is not making scads of cash in broadcasting while Thom Brennamen remains employed and loose on the streets is further proof that the distribution of labor is, at any given moment, horribly inefficient.

Justin Houston has to have some help. Maybe it will be Rod Battle, or Montez Robinson, or Darryl Gamble. But if we can just find one more consistent DE we'll improve a lot on that side of the ball.

Bryan Evans looks very good at safety. His closing speed is going to be a huge asset at that position. Likewise, Sanders Commings's size will be a huge help at corner. I saw at least one pass that he batted away with a finger tip simply because, at 6'2, his finger tips are farther out than the average corner's. I also think he'll be important on the goalline, and would pay money just to sit there in practice and watch A.J. Green and Marlon Brown try to catch the patented Mike Bobo endzone fade route against him.

Now if Coaches Ball and Lilly can get the receivers and tight ends to hold onto the ball, we'll be in business. I'd look at the dropped passes as something to work on, something which we might not have known about otherwise. The opportunity to ferrett out this type of glitch is one reason you have a spring game in the first place.

At the end of the day, it's still a glorified practice with a stripped down gameplan and trick plays you'll likely never see on a fall Saturday. And that's before we consider the significant list of injured nonparticipants. But the good news is that we didn't injure anyone else and a lot of guys who needed livefire snaps got them. Mission accomplished on those fronts.

Anybody else have any thoughts on the day that was in Sanford Stadium?

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The only 2 things that really impressed me on Saturday were Logan Gray and Matt Stinchcomb.

musical meatheads – classic.

by knowshon loves legos on Apr 13, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Actually . . .

I think Musical Meatheads is the name of the industrial ska band the Stinchcomb brothers formed with Russ Tanner and Curt McGill. Or maybe not.

by MaconDawg on Apr 13, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Just plain scared...

…..that we won’t be able to generate many points this year.

by JEFFCODAWG on Apr 13, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

It's going to be alright...

It’s like I told my friends during the game, if the offense came out and put up gaudy numbers, we’d be talking about how awful the defense is going to be. If the defense dominates, which it did, all we’ll hear is how terrible the offense is. Take heart in the fact that we weren’t playing with a full deck of cards due to injuries and that most of those dropped passes (with the notable exceptions of Aron White and Izzy Troupe) came from guys who won’t sniff the field come September.

Sic 'em Dawgs

by ClassicCityDawg on Apr 13, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Aaron Murray

I thought looked extremely, extremely good.

I mean, better than Logan Gray good. Dude has a cannon. He had that one pass where I literally said “Wow” at the same time as one of the announcers. Cox didn’t make me do that, neither did Gray.

I’m confident in Cox and Gray as 1 and 2, but Murray just impressed the hell out of me.

by UgaBulldog14 on Apr 13, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I second that

And I think I know exactly what pass you were talking about. I looked around after he made it and everyone around me in the stands kinda had their mouths open and looked confused. I heard a couple make “wait, was that Aaron Murray?” kind of comments. Based on his performance, he seemed like he could start tomorrow and be fine. Should be fun to watch the next few years.

by DawgGirl32 on Apr 13, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is the same crew that did G-Day doing Bama?

Regardless, I expect the over/under on favorable comparisons to Georgia’s scrimmage to be about 17.9.

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by wwcmrd? on Apr 13, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Before GDay, all reports posted on

forums from people who had been at practice, said Grey was ok at QB but he was far from ready and they weren’t sure if he was our future QB

He went against the 2nd D and our 1st D is trouble enough….

I don’t take anything away from it.

I will be surprised if Gray is starting for us in 2010

by AppleCub on Apr 13, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

QBs

It’s so interesting to hear the chatter about the QBs. I didn’t get to see the game because at 1am in Hong Kong, they were probably showing some lame rugby match or Cart Racing Weekly, so I guess that makes me an impartial observer of comments. There are areas of consensus and other areas where opinions vary greatly, but here is what I have heard:

1) If you are into Vegas, the smart money is on Mett to red-shirt.

2) Cox didn’t wow anyone, but didn’t make any glaring mistakes. Adding my own 2 cents, I better JPW or Jay Barker never wowed anyone at spring games and they both led teams to the Sugar Bowl in their senior season.

3) Most of the comments about Murray have been good to rave reviews. I think that is pretty interesting considering he completed something like 3 passes which seems like a pretty small sample. I guess that most beloved position on any team truly is the backup QB.

4) The opinions on Grey are the most varied. Some say he isn’t ready or that we should try Murray before Grey; others were impressed by his footwork, passing and decision making. It sounds to me that all Grey needs is more experience at the position which he lost last year because we used him on special teams. I think we will have a good battle for QB next year and I think we will be happy to have 1 solid backup and another potentially solid backup if needed.

by fotodog on Apr 13, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re : fotodog

I hope Mark Richt doesn’t think “good battle” at the QB position means a replay of Stafford Vs. Cox Vs. JTIII.

by UgaBulldog14 on Apr 14, 2009 8:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Logan Gray

I thought Gray looked good and would have like to see him run the first unit O versus the first unit D. It was obvious that Willie knew Cox was a drop back passer with no running ability and took full advantage of that fact with his blitzkrieg. I don’t think he would have been as successful with the more athletic Gray running the show. I liked what I saw from Murray, although I think not depending on him this year would be beneficial to the program in the future. From what I have seen of Cox in the past and on Saturday, I predict that Gray will be starting after the 4th or 5th game.
I iterate (which means “state again” or “repeat” although most people erroneously say they are “reiterating” on the second stating of a fact or opinion): Caleb King will NEVER be the starter on an SEC championship team. He showed me nothing last Saturday nor last year. He is a product of the Atlanta media that overhypes all metro football players.
I will continue to “reiterate” that position throughout the year as King fails to deliver with his dancing feet.
Otherwise, I was encouraged by the play of some young guys on both offense and defense and think we will be all right IF we can get the injured back and avoid further injuries. However, we will not win the SEC east with Cox at QB or King at RB. We have a slim chance of winning it with Cox at QB IF another RB can step up. We have no chance with any QB if King is the go to guy at RB.

by Jujdog on Apr 14, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Great Assessment

Well put, MaconDawg. I was at the game as well and concur with your assessments. While I don’t hold too much stock in the spring game, I had a few “nuggets” that I came away with.

1) I may be premature in saying this, but I was impressed with Kalvin Daniels. I believe he is a walk-on, but he reminded me a little bit of Knowshon with his size and running style. If I were to put together a depth chart for the fall at RB (assuming no injuries), I would probably start Samuel and have Daniels/King at #2 (depending on who has a better summer) with Thomas as a change of pace. I just haven’t been impressed with King yet and agree with Jujdog that he is not our go to guy right now. I know Caleb has more potential than what he’s shown, but he needs to come into his own a bit more.

2) Did anyone else notice Derek Rich at TE? He is a massive dude with great hands. I’m hoping that White and Figgins can carry the load at TE (w/ Orson Charles as a hybrid/slot/TE of course) but I was super happy to see this guy’s skills.

3) I was most impressed with Murray and Gray at QB. I think we’ll be fine with Cox too since he’s more experienced (and by gosh he deserves it)…but part of me wants to see us invest in the future (aka Murray or Gray). Mett will surely redshirt (as fotodog predicts)

4) I thought the Defense really did play with a chip on their shoulder (i.e. the Boykin/Green scuffle). I was SUPER happy with Justin Houston’s play and with Gamble being a DE/OLB hybrid. I think we’ll have better play at corner this year despite losing Allen and I feel pretty good thus far about Jones and Evans at safety. And with Atkins and Owens at DT, here’s hoping that CWM stays that aggressive and we can pressure with our down lineman to open up opportunities for corner/LB blitzes.

5) Looks like Walsh has improved at PK, booting one over 50 yds. Looks like we’ll have some options this year at the K and P positions, especially with the guy transferring from San Diego State.

Can’t wait for the fall! Braves baseball and our playoff-bound Hawks will have to tide me over until then. Go Dawgs!

by atldrumguy on Apr 14, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Daniels

atldrumguy,
Thanks for pointing out Daniels. I thought he ran the ball hard in his few touches, but his pass blocking looked suspect. Izzy Troupe also did well, I thought, other than his dropped TD. On the other hand, he might not (and hopefully not) have had as many catches against the number 1 D.
I attended the VSU spring game a week earlier than UGA’s and their offense moved the ball well despite having lost their top two supposedly returning QB’s from last year. Not much scoring but up and down the field.

by Jujdog on Apr 14, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Daniels

Agreed. Kalvin Daniels looked superb (and has for the last 3 G-Day games). Except there has to be a reason that a) he’s a walk-on and b) he hasn’t started or even cracked the 2 deep in his 3 seasons. I’m just saying…

Yes, that is my son. Yes, that is a bottle of Crown.

by BCDawg97 on Apr 15, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought Daniels got some carries one season when we had a bunch of people banged up.

But because of the strong recruiting UGA has done with RBs, it was always a crowded backfield.

by fotodog on Apr 15, 2009 5:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

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