2009 Independence Bowl Attendee Wrap Up
Shreveport / Independence Stadium: To go ahead and get this out there, the city wasn’t prepared for this number of people. The Aggies travel well and College Station isn't far, UGA is one of the larger Universities around, and the bowl’s third largest attendance played out like a logistical nightmare for us visitors. The stadium has no parking anywhere, and allows tailgaters just feet from the arena, making for more of a mess. It was a massive wrath of people making their way through tiny gates and we spent a good bit of time just trying to figure out where to go – no markings or crowd control measures at all. The stadium is, to quote a friend in Monroe that texted me in the game “Well, it’s 40 years old and in LA”. That is a good summation, it’s uncomfortable and dated, although we did have decent seats. Logistically, neither the bowl nor the city did much to prepare for the game, nor seemed to care; I wondered if this is why they lost the SEC as A bowl bid. A 4pm local game on the Monday after Christmas for an arena with no good travel and / or parking avenues is a bad idea. There was two hours of pregame gridlock making about half the stadium late for the game. Other things, like putting the bands by the one source of speakers in the stands (it was great our band was louder than their commercials) just showed a lack of football finesse. I will comment further on the game in another section. The hotels didn’t much provide any good info on the city or modes of transportation, and mostly it was business as usual. Hey, when you pay $130 a night for a $50 a night hotel, you expect a little more love. No special events any where city wise (the only special events were Aggie things), and many bars and clubs were closed. There simply wasn’t that much to do other than drink or gamble. We wanted some dancing – any kind of dancing, none was to be had. In fact, some of the casinos that normally have a Sunday night event, every Sunday, somehow didn’t manage to have an event last Sunday night, and I don’t believe it was a coincidence. The riverfront bar area was pretty slow with nothing special going on. The casino’s made their share on visitors, but as we didn’t gamble, our Sunday and Monday night activities were very sparse. We had a good time as we were out and doing something new, but with hotel prices doubled, and all the fans arriving, I would think somebody in the city would “kick it up a notch”, but this didn’t happen. I am sorry Shreveport, but you were woefully unprepared, uncaring, and I won’t be back there again.
Sunday Night Yell Practice: With the lack of aforementioned activities or open clubs to attend, we did make it to yell practice. I am proud to say I was the only one of about 2,000 wearing red and black there. The Aggies were all very cordial and some even took the time to explain some of the cheers. Basically, they lean over on their knees (I don’t know why) and begin a few cheers, many of which you hear in the game. Between these cheers, some young cadets in liberty overalls tell jokes making fun of Georgia and how great the Aggies are, followed by more cheer practice. My favorites were the use of the cocked right elbow and fist symbol with same meaning of a middle finger yelling “To hell with Georgia” (does that sound familiar?) and another cheer where they say “Fight Farmers Fight”. The fans were great and even gave us a ride back across the river, which we very much appreciated. It was the highlight of the trip outside of the game.
The 2009 Independence Bowl: It was difficult to enjoy the athletic competition at times from a facility standpoint (I think you are getting by now this arena is subpar for an SEC / Big 12 match up). I simply couldn’t believe the number of mistakes made by the officials and stadium crew during this game. The clock was perpetually wrong. The first down markers were late or mistaken. They moved the ball from one spot to another holding up the offense regularly. Does anyone remember UGA actually ran a full play, and then the Refs stopped the game to review the previous play? Even the Aggies didn’t get that. We often had no idea, other than football smarts, what was going on as the refs weren’t properly mic’d or made no announcement. The 25 second clocks were tiny. Did I mention the game clock was screwed up all the time? At numerous points, the game would stop, and I would mutter “Please reset the clock…” and there you go. Probably the largest disappointment was how severely outnumbered we were. The crowd noise was low, but when it was there, it was all Aggies. I missed being able to do our cheers and although I now understand why the Bulldog nation may not drive 12 hours for Shreveport, I sure wish few more did. And hey, in the end, we beat up on the Aggies pretty good on the score board. For concessions, $6 beers and $3 hotdogs may be pretty normal, but when you have to fight those kinds of lines, I didn’t much care. Another nuisance was the ‘mini –tron’ operator would routinely hit the “1st Down!” or “TD!” button when the play had a flag or something else that negated the visual, he just couldn’t seem to get it right. And for some reason, someone started doing a little down by down synopsis over the intercom, you know the usual “Rambo with the tackle, 2nd and 5” type calls, but that didn’t start until the 4th quarter on a regular basis. Maybe they fell asleep in the first half as well. But again, the stadium and the city didn’t seem to know how to put on a show, and I generally felt like they didn’t much care. Post game – there were about 10,000 of us lined up to catch the shuttles, it was looking to be about a 2-4 hour wait in the cold; it was another mess. We walked down to McDonalds to warm up and catch a cab, and as it turned out, made it to our hotel before the Aggie band did.
Synopsis: I know someone out there is going to say “Mr Negative is at it again”. So let me make some additional points. I went to my first UGA game in 5 years, which was a great thing for me. I attended my first non Atlanta bowl, another new experience. We had a great time – just had to make more of it for ourselves than what the city was offering. And I got a huge appreciation of just how amazing our entire University is. I was told to watch the Aggie Band, they were a sight to behold. So I sat through all of halftime. The Aggie band was very military like, amazing formations marching the full length of the field from North to South and back 2 times. Very impressive. Then the Redcoats came out. We sprawled the entire field, cheerleaders, flag wavers, and baton throwers everywhere. We didn’t just play our traditional music, we played a whole gig. We had a very crowd appealing duo of majorettes throwing up fire batons. Yes, 3 batons in the air at one time on fire. For the on field completion I just wanted to say this: we have absolutely stellar athletes and we better get our coaching staff in order to take advantage of it. I didn’t want to break down Xs and Os on this post, but my biggest take is our football program is underachieving in most categories and we are doing it to ourselves. We have the talent and the program to be a top ten school annually now.
Our University is simply very big, very organized, with 225 years of practice at everything U to get this stuff right, and you know what, we absolutely do. Let me tell you: if you attend a game at Sanford Stadium, look no further, you are in one of the finest facilities in America and will enjoy a beyond professional level ran and organized event. Sometimes you do have to go see how other places are to get a head check on just how good it is in Athens. In summary: IT’S GREAT, TO BE, A GEORGIA BULLDOG!
PS - I would love to answer questions below, about what I saw onfield or otherwise.
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Nice writeup, TT
Your poor experiences with the city of Shreveport and the stadium are corroborated over at the A&M blog, so we know it’s not just your natural negative tendencies taking over. :-)
Just read Beerguts posts
And it was spot in for us as well. We ate in the El Dorado Sunday night and had to return a cheeseburger. It was very bad.
"Sometimes, you just can't get rid of a bomb." - batman
by tankertoad on Dec 30, 2009 9:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you are, as always, the Dennis Miller of UGA football with the references
and many thanks for moving my post to the big board. Now I can go to Hollywood and get a movie deal about how I got one play one time one year. )
"Sometimes, you just can't get rid of a bomb." - batman
I literally laughed out loud at that . . .
. . . and not in a text-message “lol” way.
You don’t get enough “Rudy”-bashing references. Seriously, you really don’t.
Go 'Dawgs!
Thanks for the post.
I almost made a short notice trip, but decided against it. I am very glad I didn’t after hearing about all the delays. I went to the Ole Miss game in 06, and the Arkansas game and the Auburn game this year, and while the Arkansas facility is nice, you are 100% correct in saying that Sanford Stadium is a top notch facility. It is the best I’ve ever been to.
I think Erk Russell could have kicked Clint Eastwood and John Wayne's butts with a corn cob and one hand tied behind his back. GATA!
i just got hit up about going to CU next year - but i dont think i can do another 9 hour drive
however, i fully expect CU to put on much more of a show!
"Sometimes, you just can't get rid of a bomb." - batman
This may sound odd to those who don’t know the parties involved, but my mother and one of my brothers are planning a road trip to Yellowstone next fall. I’m seriously considering joining them and seeing if I can parlay an independent side-trip to Boulder for the game.
i want to go, but i dont think i can do a long drive again
but i have been to boulder, and i am certain it would be a much more pleasant affair.
"Sometimes, you just can't get rid of a bomb." - batman
Boulder is a great trip
Nestled in the Rockies, it’s very much a college town…think Athens with a mountain motif. Artsy, good downtown gathering area, great food, decent enough stadium, Ralph the buffalo…funky endzone. Worth the trip kids. (Caution…only one road from Denver, however, and nearly always a traffic nightmare…at least as of several years ago, so plan accordingly.)
Run Lindsay Run!
The one time I went to Boulder
it was for work and I had an absolute BALL – my classmates in the conference & I made the drive from near Denver up to Boulder for the evening and thoroughly enjoyed ourselves on Pearl Street. I might have to try to make the trip to Boulder myself next year.
"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain
That's what we did
I was in Lafayette for work and went to Boulder for dinner. My classmates bitched about the length of the drive until we got there. I liked how handy parking was. I think there was a parking deck right off the street.
I wonder how many Dawg fans will make the trip
to Boulder? Starkville is closer to me (but only by a couple hours driving), but the timing of Boulder works out better I think.
"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain
Boulder isn't quite as cool as Tempe...
… but is light years better than Stillwater, so I’d say the crowd will probably be similar to but not quite as large as the Arizona State crowd.
The Arizona State contingent was huge, and was somewhat additionally inflated, I think, by the following confluence of factors:
1) This was the first regular-season trip west of the states of Arkansas and Louisiana that Georgia had made since… well… longer than most “young” fans like Kyle and MaconDawg can remember. That generated significant anticipation.
2) Even though Georgia’s ticket allotment was paltry, Arizona State’s season ticket program was especially friendly to those fans that wanted to get their tickets through the host university. Basically, you could buy a season ticket in the section next to the Georgia section for $99, and then return all the tickets except for the Georgia ticket and get credit for a charitable contribution. (ASU takes all returned tickets and donates them to Boys and Girls Clubs.) So, for $99, you didn’t even have to wait to see if you got tickets through the UGA order process… you could just become a Sun Devil season ticket holder. Because your tickets were assured (and not subject to whether or not you had given enough money to UGA, which wasn’t announced until about a month before the game), you could make tickets and reservations months in advance, and plan the outing with friends.
3) Flights to Phoenix are very cheap, and one of the runways at the Phoenix airport is about 30 feet away from Tempe.
4) Tempe is a great place to party… even if you’re boring like me.
5) On January 1, 2008, Georgia burned Hawai’i so bad that they had to rename the game the “Caramel Bowl.” Over the next 8 months, the Dawgs were ranked preseason #1 for the first time ever, and the anticipation level for the 2008 season was virtually sent into orbit. With that level of excitement abounding, Georgia fans were going to follow this team everywhere they went.
I could probably go on, but I think those 5 points are enough to highlight the fact that the Georgia/Arizona State game in 2008 was a magnificent confluence of events that resulted in Georgia having almost as many fans as a Pac-10 team did in the Pac-10 team’s home stadium.
I don’t think Georgia fans will overrun the Boulder area as we did Tempe, but we do have the following facts going for us:
1) Boulder isn’t as close to Denver as Tempe is to Phoenix, but it’s still very convenient.
2) Boulder is a great place to hang out, even if it’s cold.
3) The Colorado program and fan interest is ensconced in a historic ebb, so tickets should be relatively inexpensive if the Georgia allotment sells out (thus providing the “assured tickets” route again).
4) Georgia’s 2010 football season is becoming more and more highly-anticipated by fans, though not nearly as much as the 2008 season.
Because of this, I think the Bulldog Nation will travel well to Boulder. I know I’m planning to be there. (Of course, I was even there in Stillwater… so that’s not saying much.)
Yeah, heck, I was in Stillwater . . .
. . . and I haven’t made road trips regularly since the early 2000s.
Go 'Dawgs!
Shouldn't be a problem
although you may miss the actual Yellowstone visit, or part of it. Other than your tickets and maybe a hotel room the night of the game, there’s no advanced planning needed.
I went to Boulder once when in the Denver area for work to have dinner at a brewpub. I was staying at the Westin Interlocken, which isn’t too far from Boulder. It was a nice hotel, and the view of the mountains from my room was amazing.
Shreveport
I laughed, I cried,….. where in the hell did you think you were going? If you had needed a lawn mower blade sharpened or a hog castrated, Shreveport would have been ground zero for the activities. Do you not own a globe? May you be blessed for your support of your beloved Dawgs but did the scarcity of your bretheren not speak to you? I salute your intrepid nature in support of your team but next time, stock up on DVDs, whiskey and Neosporin before you take a walk on the wild side.
I have been to shreveport many times actually flying into the local airport in trainers,
just not for bowl or to Indy Stadium. I didnt expect a lot. But I expected something. And hey, this may be part of the next 30 years of attending all kinds of bowls!
"Sometimes, you just can't get rid of a bomb." - batman
Good luck T.T.
Sometimes you just can’t make the most of a bomb.
thanks Renegator for the thoughts - please keep dropping by
"Sometimes, you just can't get rid of a bomb." - batman
From the Sidelines which Players stood out to you the most to look out for next year?
Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win.
I Corinthians 9:24
the textbook answer would be...
AJ Green. He is the real deal. He seems to be the one guy that is finishing the drill.
Non obvious answer for me was Boykin. I really liked watching him and I think he has a bright future. Maybe if we can just get him to show up and stuff for meetings.
"Sometimes, you just can't get rid of a bomb." - batman
great writeup...totally agree
The city was completely unprepared to host this game. We were told that no parking was available at the stadium so they were guiding fans to two shuttle locations. Well, those shuttle locations (at least the one I used) had a minimum of one hour wait to get to the game. Then, the crowds bottlenecked going into the stadium for another 45 minutes or so. After the game was even worse. We stood in the cold for two hours waiting for the 5 or 6 buses allocated to our shuttle location.
The game was fun, the fans I met were very friendly, but the transportation experience was miserable.
**This**
Your signature line TT fits what many of us already knew about the jewels by the river, Shreveport/Bossier City. At least Hale got some local flavor..malt liquor I believe.
Run Lindsay Run!

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