7-5 > 89-27: Lane Kiffin's Plan Apparently Involves Robbing Tennessee Volunteers Fans of Math Skills and Manners
Last October, when the Georgia Bulldogs lost to the Tennessee Volunteers, I was strongly critical of the Red and Black for their poor performance against a team of questionable quality. This drew quite a bit of criticism from Big Orange fans who apparently missed my point, which I thought would have been made quite clear by the apportionment of my word count to particular subjects, but time passed, I gave the Vols their due (albeit only their due and no more), and the storm blew over . . . or so I thought.
Earlier today, I received the following e-mail from a member of the Vol faithful, whose name I have omitted but who confirms the correctness of the axiom "a fish rots from the head down" by being buttholier-than-thou:
Dear, Mr. King, I went back and read your article on the complete and utter ass whipping we gave your team in October. In case you don't remember, it was 45-19 and the renaissance of Jonathan Crompton began that day. If you will, let's revisit some gems from that article...
"the Vols are a terrible football team. Simply stated, they suck."
"They aren’t going to beat anyone all year who’s any good."
"They aren't going to look competent offensively against anyone that's the least bit decent."
And, my personal favorite, "They aren't going to a bowl game."
Wow, as the season has drawn to a close, you couldn't have been more wrong.
Lane Kiffin proved you so wrong. He proved he could coach, and made you look foolish.
Not only did we destroy Georgia, we beat South Carolina, Kentucky, and almost beat Alabama.
Your theory of Kiffin not being able to coach his own talent was proven wrong when he coached up much worse talent than he was given to start with.
To add insult to injury, he has made Georgia his playground by taking commitments from several key Georgia natives including Jawuan James who Richt and Co. wanted badly.
We started 3 walk-ons, two on the the OL, and had a 1,200 yard rusher, with two walk-ons. Run that through your head. Your team's OL is too soft to even have one 1,000 yard rusher. Also, your team is one of the most penalized in the conference, if not the most. Meanwhile, Tennessee is one of the least penalized in the conference. But, hey, at least Mark Richt is a good guy.
Also, Kiffin turned the worst SEC quarterback in the last fifteen years into a guy who might get drafted. Yes, Crompton might get drafted. Not only that, we will miss him more than we will Eric Berry next year. Run that through your head for a second.
So, now that Georgia is the 3rd best team in the SEC, and possibly 4th (Would take USCe over Georgia everyday), what do you have to say 'bout Lane Kiffin?
Is he still a clown who won't win with the talent he's recruiting?
Don't even bring up the NCAA allegations because you are stupid if you think we'll actually get penalized.
So, the Lane Train keeps on rollin', and Georgia, well....I don't know what you would call Georgia's program. Slow motion, maybe? Stuck in mud? I don't know, I know Bud Foster played Mark Richt like a fiddle to get more money, and Kirby Smart turned down the job.
You'll have graduate assistants possibly calling plays in your bowl game, but hey, Mark Richt is a good man. Who cares about a football coach, right?
P.S. I wonder if Marlon Brown regrets his decision?
Frankly, I was a bit at a loss to know how to respond to that bilious screed, partly because I am a big believer in the idea of being magnanimous in victory and defiant in defeat, and partly because there is some serious cognitive dissonance going on there.
I mean, maybe we didn’t have a 1,000-yard rusher because we had, y’know, three running backs splitting time in the backfield? Just a thought. As for the gentleman’s willingness to take the South Carolina Gamecocks "over Georgia everyday," that choice would have served him well only on fourteen of the 62 days on which the Classic City Canines and the Palmetto State Poultry actually have met on the gridiron, including just one of the most recent eight. I’m not sure that even the most rabid South Carolina partisan would claim the ‘Dawgs were fourth in the Eastern Division behind the ‘Cocks, inasmuch as the two teams finished with identical overall records, Georgia had a better conference record, the Red and Black won the head-to-head meeting, and (arguably) the Big Chickens’ best win was over the Clemson Tigers, a team that lost twice to the Bulldogs’ most accomplished victim, the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets. Methinks my not-so-humble correspondent is getting a tad too much of his corn from a jar.
In the end, I sent back the following reply, from which my correspondent’s name once again has been omitted:
Dear ______,
Congratulations on the rich full life that leaves you feeling compelled to revisit two-month old blog posts in order to mine the nuggets which are conducive to your point but which were ancillary to mine. As ought to have been clear, the point of my posting was to criticize Georgia, not Tennessee, and the subsequent firings of three coaches indicate the correctness of my position.
However, I congratulate you on the rousing success of going 7-5 overall and 4-4 in SEC play. I am glad to know that some fans are pleased with their teams, as I am dejected over going 7-5 overall and 4-4 in SEC play. I guess that is the sort of perspective one gains from having won an SEC championship---two, as a matter of fact---in the 21st century.
I applaud your dedication to your belief that Lane Kiffin is a good coach and Mark Richt is a bad one despite the fact that Lane Kiffin's best season produced results identical to Mark Richt's worst one. Personally, I have always been constrained by reality, and I therefore am willing to change my views when given evidence upon the basis of which to do so. For instance, I routinely have recognized Tennessee fans as the classiest among the Bulldogs' annual rivals. Now that I have heard from you, I will know better than to repeat that mistaken sentiment.
We'll look forward to seeing you in Athens next October 9. Happy holidays!
T. Kyle King
I don’t know about you, but I was a bit more in the Christmas spirit after that exchange, for it reminded me that there is something worse than being 7-5 and knowing that means you’re not good; you could be 7-5, mistakenly believe that means you’re good, and be a jerk about it. The first step in the direction of getting better is admitting there’s a problem. The second step is not being a jackass while in the process of taking the subsequent requisite steps toward improvement.
Obviously, I was mistaken when stating that Tennessee was not going to a bowl game; the Volunteers are headed for the Chick-fil-A Bowl, and they deserved to receive a bid to the Outback Bowl. I do not know that I was particularly wrong about Jonathan Crompton, who ranked ninth in the league in pass efficiency rating in a year in which the SEC quarterback class was not strong, and I am far from fearful about the future prospects for an aerial attack coordinated by anyone named Kippy.
I stand by the position that a team didn’t beat anyone good when that team’s victims were Western Kentucky (0-12 in the Sun Belt), Ohio (9-4 in the MAC), Georgia (7-5), South Carolina (7-5), Memphis (2-10 in Conference USA), Vanderbilt (2-10), and Kentucky (7-5), because I think beating someone good involves defeating at least one BCS conference opponent with a winning percentage over .583, but your mileage may vary. If the guy who wrote to me is made upbeat by a record that has me declaring the doom of all that is right and good, who am I to tell him he shouldn’t be willing to settle for the mediocrity for which I will not stand? To each his own, I suppose.
Go ‘Dawgs!
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between tenn and auburn
i will be routing against the SEC for the first time in my life in bowl games.
your point (and mine) was UGA was horrible this year. SO horrible, they lost to a horrible UT. But apparently beating weak teams and losing to your rivals counts as a comeback year in the SEC. Hell, if anyone could talk smack – it would be UK, and i havent heard a word from them.
The writer pretty much admitted they were up to no good with their recruiting, just said “if you think we’ll actually get penalized”. Sounds like he knows they should to me. The only way to solve this is to beat UT, Florida, Auburn and Tech next year for the first time under CMR and the first time in a long time. This year I may have been dubbed “pessimistic” next year it will be pure righteous anger.
And WTH? UT isnt getting all of our top recruits, thats crazy talk.
"Why are we in shotgun on 3rd and 3 against the blitz?" - me
Crazy talk comes from
excessive inbreeding.
"Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances." Mark Twain
sadly...
it occurs with such persistent regularity i tend to doubt that there are that many siblings that find each other attractive.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
I try not to get too worked up over recruiting
I learned a long time ago not to get overly emotionally invested in a 17-year-old kid’s college choices.
Georgia is a heavily-populated, football-crazed state with two Division I-A schools and it borders several states with two or more Division I-A schools apiece. Lots of folks come here in search of recruits and the big boys all get their share. Tennessee has good recruiters on staff and the Vols will get their share of Atlanta-area kids; they always have. We’ll get our share, too . . . and, at the end of the day, coaching and execution will make the difference between relatively equally talented teams nine times out of ten.
Even if all the verbal commitments live up to their word on signing day, make grades, and actually enroll (none of which are sure things), the fact that School A missed out on Recruit Z isn’t likely to turn the tide of the rivalry. School B almost certainly snagged Recruit Y out from under School A’s nose, as well.
I appreciated his concern for Marlon Brown’s emotional well-being, though. Clearly, we’re dealing with a caring soul here.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Dec 17, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
oh, i agree completely - that is what was in my head (not on my post)
i follow recruiting more than you Kyle, this goes back with our exchanges for over 10 years. But, ultimately, this concept some top recruit is going to UT because they are on an upswing is silly. It doesnt make sense. We have no idea of the reasons people go where they go at the time. THe aforementioned recruits from the state of Georgia may have wanted to go to UT since they were in pee wee league. Its an attempt at logic based on speculation unfounded with any facts or knowledge. its crazy talk.
"Why are we in shotgun on 3rd and 3 against the blitz?" - me
Agreed
You never know what will sell a recruit on a college. If a team is on the upswing, the recruit could be a part of a championship team. If a team is on the downswing, the recruit could compete for playing time earlier. If one team has the upper hand in the rivalry, the recruit could be a part of a winning tradition. If one team has been on the short end of the rivalry, the recruit could be a part of reversing that trend. There’s just no telling.
You’re right, though. If Player A picks School X over School Y, it may mean one thing, it may mean another thing, or it may mean nothing at all. All we know for sure is that Player A picked School X, whatever his reasons may have been.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Dec 17, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Case In Point
http://rivals100.rivals.com/TeamRank.asp?postype=0&sort=0&year=2005
These are the Rivals rankings from 2005. These recruits should anchor the starting talent on many of the top ranked teams in the country.
Tennessee had a tremendous recruiting year in 2005, ranking number 4 on this list. The group of players included both Crompton and Hardesty, important players on this Tennessee team. However, recruiting rankings do not equal championships. #1 Southern Cal is going to San Francisco, #2 FSU is playing in Jacksonville, #3 Oklahoma is playing in El Paso, and #4 Tennessee is in Atlanta.
In fact, the entire top 10 of the recruiting classes from 2005 reads like a postcard of programs trying to find themselves.
If recruiting rankings meant anything, at least one of the teams in the top 10 from 2005 should be in a BCS bowl in 2009. The fact that none of them are, just goes to show that there are myriad factors that determine how successful a team may be on the field. If Mark Sanchez and Matt Stafford stay for their senior years, we probably have a different looking landscape. If Michigan ran a pro-style offense with Ryan Mallett under center, the Wolverines likely wouldn’t be sitting at home this winter.
At the end of the day, these are teenagers being hyped up by the national press. We have no idea how good any of these players will be until they snap up the helmets and play. More often than not, its up to the coaching staff to turn “high school talent” into a “college football player”. Kiffin is doing a great job of talking about recruiting at every turn. Lane should ask Mack Brown how great it feels to be known as Mr. February. I’ll be impressed with Kiffin when he starts winning SEC Championships, and not before then.
by sugar hill dawg on Dec 18, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
Vicious Vol Vitriole
Do you reckon this fu….fan just sobered up enough to find the keyboard or just fell off the wagon hard enough to think he was coherent? Jonathan Crompton may indeed be drafted. If war breaks out with China and Russia, I may be drafted and I’m 55.
100 cocktails and a stick of butter are headed your way . . .
. . . at next year’s Cocktail Party, renegator!
“I may be drafted and I’m 55” may be the best line to appear in a Dawg Sports comment since “I’m so jacked I just ate a stick of butter!”
It literally made me laugh out loud (not in a text-messaging “lol” sense). Thanks . . . and may you and your family have a healthy and happy Christmas. Dealing with the handful of fans who use the anonymity of the internet as an excuse to be jerks makes me appreciate all the more opposing fans like you and skigator93 who conduct yourselves with class even in what you regard as enemy territory. Much obliged.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Dec 17, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Looking forward to cocktails and butter
It’ always a pleasure to chat with you guys. There aren’t many places to blog about sports where the participants are insightful, intelligent, polite yet spirited about their team. My idle time would be less enjoyable if not for the wit, wisdom and good natured B.S. I find here. Here’s wishing Dawgs everywhere a wonderful and memorable Christmas with laughing babies and happy momma’s all around the tree.
Thanks for the opportunity to share, T. Kyle.
The part about
UT not having any penalties is the best. IF Kiffin manages to avoid some NCAA sanctions. (and I think that is a big “if”), it will embolden Kiffikins to out-do himself.
It’s not a question of “if” Tennessee goes boom! It’s a question of high high will the inevitable mushroom cloud rise.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Dec 17, 2009 11:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I really hate typing on this iPhone
Did any of that make sense?
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Dec 17, 2009 11:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We read you loud and clear, Dave
Just don’t trust that device to open the pod bay door for you.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Dec 17, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
I loved your respons
I really need to get your number so I can call you next time I am having an argument. Or maybe I just need to go to law school…
by QuietHourBackflips on Dec 18, 2009 12:15 AM EST reply actions
to be fair your response completely ignores the context of your statements
you had been railing on Kiffin and said he would be a ridiculous favor. Then when GA lost you decided to throw your own team under the bus to show that he had still not accomplished anything
Living in Alabama is like living 50 years in the past, they are still just as racist, just as educated, the state constitution forbids any kind of public transportation, and all they can talk about is Bear Bryant
change favor to failure
Living in Alabama is like living 50 years in the past, they are still just as racist, just as educated, the state constitution forbids any kind of public transportation, and all they can talk about is Bear Bryant
AND you now apparently are content with generalizations
about Tennessee fans based on the response of a lone idiot……..“I routinely have recognized Tennessee fans as the classiest among the Bulldogs’ annual rivals. Now that I have heard from you, I will know better than to repeat that mistaken sentiment.”
I guess you don’t have any like this in Georgia.
How awesome for you.
No one is perfect
I guess you don’t have any like this in Georgia.
At last count, we had 8.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
Kyle was obviously using a bit of exaggeration
to prove a point. A letter written to bring up and dispute a blogpost from two months prior is clearly a bit of sour grapes. Obviously, the writer had his feelings hurt by a post which, by and large, told the truth about the two teams of which it spoke. Georgia was a mediocre team at best this year, and Tennessee was not much better. They have identical records (both overall and in-conference) only separated by the blasting Georgia received in Knoxville.
The fact that the writer was so offended by the article is what is so confusing in this whole situation. Lane Kiffen still has not proven the ability to do much more than an average coaching job. To brag that he outcoached Georgia this year is saying very little, considering that three of Georgia’s four defensive coaches were fired at the end of the year, with poor coaching/job performance as the reason. Tennessee beat no one of substance, and the fact remains that three people were fired at Georgia for the same record that is causing jubilee in Knoxville. So sure, Tennessee may have more notches on its bedpost this year than it did previously, but none of them are really much to brag about…and even the ones that are apparently aren’t that hard to come by.
by hailtogeorgia on Dec 18, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
And obviously, that should read
Lane Kiffin, not Kiffen. I’m confusing the german verb with the last name. Mea culpa.
by hailtogeorgia on Dec 18, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Priceless ...
Kyle, an excellent piece of writing. Simply excellent. Funny AND true. I enjoyed it immensely. Kind of reminds me of the partially filled glass analogy. With a 7-5 record, is the glass half-empty or half-full? Personally, I believe that the 2010 season will put a lot of things back into thier proper perspective in the SEC. I can’t wait. Go Dawgs !!!!
saying vol fans have a propensity for missing the point....
is like saying the ocean has a slight problems with salinity.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
And another thing...
In case you don’t remember, it was 45-19 and the renaissance of Jonathan Crompton began that day.
Jonathan Crompton and “renaissance” should never be used in the same sentence. Neither should John Stamos and Academy Awards.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
I'm not sure that his e-mail even deserved a response
other than maybe a “glad you are happy with the state of your program – best wishes and Merry Christmas.”
Despite the rantings of a few jackasses (all teams have them), I will, as always root for all SEC teams to win this bowl season. After reviewing the games, I feel the SEC will do well. I picked SEC teams to win 7 of their 10 bowl games (UT was one I thought would lose). Alligator Army is doing a pick ‘em contest – yall probably wouldn’t care for the prizes, but it would be fun to have yall compete with us. Link over to AA if interested – there is a link and password there today.
You know your
team is in complete shambles when this is one of your seasons crowning moments..
we beat South Carolina, Kentucky, and almost beat Alabama.
LOL! So you think your team achieved something by beating S. Carolina and Kentucky?? Really? Last time i checked, those are two teams you are expected to beat every year….
And, when you ALMOST beat a team…that means you lost..not sure if the tard knew that..Hells bells son…when did almost beating your rival mean anything other than you just lost to your rival? God i just wish UT would go away…
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
It's an attitude...
… that’s worthy of a South Carolina or Georgia Tech fan. They’ve been getting “moral victories” by the handfuls against Georgia since the 1890’s.
I support the beginning of a era where Tennessee fans celebrate many moral victories like their games against Alabama and Florida this year.
(But I still hate Florida.)
by vineyarddawg on Dec 18, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Well said, bammer
You’re absolutely right. Georgia went 7-5 this year, both in reality and in morality. We didn’t “almost beat” LSU; we lost to LSU. We lost to Kentucky, to whom we have no excuse for losing, but we lost because we deserved to lose. That makes us bad.
We’ll be better, of course, and soon. Right now, though, we suck. We better serve our team by admitting its faults and working to correct them than by trying to put a pretty face on a failed campaign.
Merry Christmas, bammer. Here’s hoping both our teams bring home bowl victories over Lone Star State squads.
Go 'Dawgs!
right back at ya..
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
+1 bammer
And yet oddly, our Vol fan fails to regard the “moral victory” over Florida as significant. My, how the mighty have fallen if nearly beating the lizards is no longer of significance when posting accomplishiments of a truly marginal season.
Somewhere, Tebow is crying….but we knew that already. Must be that Kiffy’s approach is rubbing-off on the fanbase and the back-handed insult/omission was intentional. If so, well played sir!
Run Lindsay Run!
for real
This was my response to a UT fan/friend:
Me:
Seriously Auburn and Tennessee fans….when did..ALMOST beating your rival, mean anything other than losing to your rival?
UT fan:
It means that maybe ut and auburn are tougher than a lot give them credit for…especially with first year coaches
Me:
You know whats funny? Neither UT or Auburn are lacking in talent. Going back to 2006, only UT had one recruiting class outside of the top 25. In 07 they had the #3 class. Dont believe me? go check out Rivals.com. So no, i don’t give either team a pass with new coaches. Its not like you’ve been on probation or had a lot of coaching changes. IN fact… See More, Fulmer was there what 17+ years? So just because you guys played tough, doesn’t mean anything…I just find it very funny that UT fans especially, are holding their hats on two losses..
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
I think it's because
UT didn’t almost beat us. Bama blocked a kick to beat UT. We won by shutting down their offense – despite them having the ball nearly the entire game. They basically ran the old Princeton 4 corners from the tip-off, but didn’t score any (or many) baskets. Their goal was to keep from getting blown out – and they accomplished that. But they weren’t playing like they were even trying to win the game.
Were not trying to win
I was in the Swamp that day and observed the Vols, down by ten in the 4th qtr., run out the clock. I was astounded that a college football coach could find peace within his soul being satisfied with not being blown out. I don’t know what the future holds for Lane Kiffin at Tennessee but I know this, he is nothing that I would ever want associated with a team that I cared about. He makes “Pat Tie” look like Patton. I have a really icky feeling about the future of the Vols. I will never insult a team of college athletes but I feel comfortable in saying that Lane Kiffin’s ideology sucks.
Maybe he had some big money on the game
and was happy to cover?!?
love your response
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
that women [sic] is definitely out of my league, but I’m smooth with words
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Dec 19, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Your good TKK... My take on how to be a great debater
such as TKK. Someone who can take a blow, shrug it off and then dish out a even greater blow. I am a USAF Fire Fighter. When I first started, I caught a lot of slack becuase people would spew idiotic insults at me, and I would actually try to prove thier statements wrong. Have you ever tried to have a debate with a room full of idiots using facts and truths. Its point less. Notice how TKK answers none of the idiots questions and takes the focus off of him and reverts it back to the initiator.
I know this isnt about Football, I just wanted to point out the VOL fan had some valid points. His first 3-4 points would of been enough, but he went on and on with non sense, and of course TKK made him pay for that. So in return his original valid points were negated by his rediculous pride in Lane Kiffin and his 7-5 team.
"Why does bottled water have an expiration date?"
Inartful
Blutarsky has already cornered the “DERP, MORAL VICTORY, DERP” market, so I’m curious which audience you’re going after here.
You're full of crap.
I'm aiming for the "people who can do math" audience . . .
. . . and the “just because my team’s head coach is a jackass doesn’t mean I have to be one, too” crowd.
Could you provide me with a link to the posting in which Senator Blutarsky used the term “derp”? I must have missed it, just like I’ve managed to miss all the Georgia fans who say “arp” to Orson Swindle, despite my regular attendance at Bulldog home games over the course of the last quarter-century.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Dec 21, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions

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