... in which I bash Ole Miss fans and administrators
I first saw this story in the Athens paper last week and thought to myself, "This will not end well." Sure enough, Dan Jones, the newly-minted Chancellor of the University of Mississippi ordered the marching band this week to stop playing the popular song From Dixie With Love at all athletic events.
Now, don't get me wrong... I actually like Ole Miss. I also would like nothing more than to see Ole Miss football rise to a high level again, because that would mean more TV exposure, and you can never get enough TV time for the ladies of the Grove. (I actually mean the ladies of the grove... that's not a backhanded slap at the football team.)
From Dixie With Love combines Dixie, the de facto Confederate Anthem, with the Battle Hymn of the Republic, which we are all familiar with, and which was one of the most popular Union civil war songs. The furor and outrage has come because during the Battle Hymn portion of the song (at the point which Georgia fans would yell "G-E-O-R-G-I-A" or, possibly, "To hell with (insert team currently being played here)), many Ole Miss fans yell, "The South will rise again."
This chant can be heard in the following video (props to Paul Westerdawg for "braving" the Grove to get this):
Of course, this issue is highly-polarizing, but I would like to chastise both parties here. First, to Dan Jones. Shame on you, Mr. Jones, for inciting this conflagration. I understand that you likely have a Michael Adams-sized need to establish your absolute unquestioned authority as the dictator of Mississippi... most University leaders these days have such a requirement built into their character, it seems. And the easiest way to establish yourself as Il Duce is to arbitrarily knock off a beloved icon or tradition at your school. To claim that a song being sung in jest by the fans is a major threat to the image of the university is simply ludicrous, however. It's clear that the fans are joking, and if you ever actually were present for a performance of the song, you would see Ole Miss fans smirking and laughing every time the words come out of their lips. Do you honestly think that the vast majority of Ole Miss fans, while singing that song, are thinking anything other than, "Ole Miss will rise again" when those words roll across their lips?
Now to the Ole Miss fans. Don't be ignorant. The south has already risen again. Four of the last six Presidents have been from the South. In that same time, no presidential candidate has won an election without taking at least three southern states. Carmakers have relocated and/or opened up new manufacturing facilities in the south. Technology companies have flocked to the south (especially Texas, Georgia, and North Carolina) in incredible numbers. And most importantly to virtually all of us, the SEC is collectively the undisputed king of the college football world.
The fact that the SEC apparently hasn't lifted the state of Mississippi football along with the rest of the conference is your own fault, not ours. I mean, you had Tommy Tuberville and let him leave. Then you brought David Cutcliffe into town, only to ride him out on a rail after coaching the best Manning ever to play at your school. At this point, I'm putting the over/under on Houston Nutt's welcome at 3-4 more years. He's bound to mouth off at exactly the wrong time and tick somebody off, which will tick somebody else off, and it'll probably coincide with one disappointing season, which will be all it takes. You need to get used to the fact that, right now, you're not the Yankees screwing with Joe Torre and Billy Martin. You're more like the Chicago Cubs screwing around with Dusty Baker and Lou Pinella.
Ole Miss fans, change your chant and yell what you really mean... "Ole Miss will rise again."
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Good post, but
the war fought in this country from 1861-1865 is properly called the “civil war” only from the northern point of view. To southerers, it is properly and historically called “The War Between the States.” Now, I know some people are going to react__heck no, it was the war of yankee agression, but textbooks when I went to school referred to it as I have pointed out above.
by Jujdog on Nov 11, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The War of Northern Aggression
Because the North was tellin’ the South what to do.
Look, you can divide the people who chant “The South will rise Again!” into two groups: the good-guys and the bad-guys. (I know, aren’t I original?). There are, in fact, people out there who apparently want the south to rise up and break their bonds (of imagination?) from the North. These are the people who are complete and utter morons.
Then there are the people who just want to see the South raised in importance and standing, which I’m guessing is what 95% of people who chant this mean, like vineyarddawg says. But here’s the fact: chants like this, actions like flying the confederate flag, and even to an extent the rebel yell are seen by different people different ways. I’ve lived in North Carolina my entire life — I’ve yet to spend three consecutive weeks outside of the state! — and I get what people mean when they flag the confederate flag over the South Carolina capital, what Ole Miss fans mean when they chant stuff like this.
But here’s a newsflash: the Southeast isn’t the United States. In today’s day and age, where perception is everything, we have to be politically correct, as horrible as that is. Do you really expect non-Southerners to get what we mean when we show our pride? They think we’re proud that we started a bloody war and broke away from the Union, which couldn’t be farther from the truth, I think. We are proud that we stood up for our morals and our beliefs. Most of the Country just figures that this entire Civil War business was about the issue of Slaves. And I, for one, don’t need to loudly vocalize my support for what happened, because I know that doing so will piss people off who don’t — and won’t — understand the situation.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Nov 11, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I personally prefer the way it is referred to on the North Campus sign honoring the UGA students who fought and died:
The War for Southern Independence.
The fact that it is located next to the building they renamed “The Hunter/Holmes Academic Building” while I was a student was just a delicious piece of irony (although whether in the traditional or Alanis Morrisette sense is in the eye of the beholder).
I want every college football fan in America to be as miserable as I am.
by RedCrake on Nov 12, 2009 7:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought they changed that sign a while back. Maybe it was changed back? In any event, I always found it interesting that the word choice for the sign rendered the sign not only a marker of history, but a mark of history itself.
by NCT on Nov 12, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They probably did.
Last time I checked it out was in 2002.
I want every college football fan in America to be as miserable as I am.
by RedCrake on Nov 12, 2009 9:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, for the record...
… I do usually call it “The War Between the States.” In this instance, though, I was looking for a quick reference, and figured people wouldn’t get TWBTS… so “civil war” it became.
by vineyarddawg on Nov 12, 2009 9:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A new and enlightened South
Boy I sure am glad that the people in Oxford have them a shiny new little dictator to march with. I’m also really glad that we have so much more freedom than did our ancestors in the Old South. This new enlightened South is wonderful with all the hatred gone. Now that everyone has a right to choose where their kids go to school and what they will be taught in class, education should be improving by leaps and bounds. With the elimination of every last vestige of a proud and heroic culture the people of the South will be much more manageable. Our kids can now openly practice voodoo or santeria on school grounds and have the full protection of campus authorities. Back when they could talk about the Bible in school it sure did cause a lot of trouble. Now that murder, drugs, theft, abortions etc. have been wiped out by our new enlightened leaders we can turn around and take a look at the Old South in it’s entirety. Do you really think things are better today? They’re not, only different.
by renegator on Nov 11, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Typical
I am so sick and tired of this political correctness in favor of not hurting someone’s feelings! I do wonder though, did they consider the hundreds of thousands of followers of Ole Miss that may actually LIKE their traditions??? Or, did they just decide to do the cliche’ of blanketing the masses with conformity in order to appease the generic few who MAY, say again, MAY even give a crap in opposition? I say, let the band play Dixie, let the patrons wave a Confederate flag if they so choose to. But, the key point that always applies to what is always called, “the silent majority”, very few Ole Miss fans and/or Alumni will even consider boycotting! What, oh what would the fascist dictators in the administration do if about 50,000+ decided not to show up to another Ole Miss game either at home or on the road, ever again, until the administration reversed their decision??? Would you be willing to bet after the first week that decision would be made, followed by an official apology by said administration? Oh, I bet so! But, like everything else, those people won’t take a stand on anything. No one will rally them, no one will stand-up and organize it. And, I just bet the “oh, I want to be so progressive in my thinking” students who are brainwashed on campus are loudly applauding the fundamental errasing of history and herritage. No wonder so many Southern-born folks never say “y’all”, “momma & daddy”, or eat grits or drink sweet tea anymore. Our culture is severely erroded to the point that if it weren’t for the steeples in town, I couldn’t tell Charleston, SC from Newark, NJ or Hartford CT. Give it 5-10 more years and they’ll be the Ole Miss Yellow Jackets or something. “Rebels” doesn’t stand a chance…and to hell with them all if they don’t have the spine to stand up to it!!!!!
by HNKRDWN on Nov 11, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
True story:
Back in nineteen hundred and ninety-three, I drove to D.C. for Clinton’s first inauguration. In picking up a drive-through meal at a Fredericksburg, Virginia, Wendy’s, my order included sweet tea (back then, Wendy’s served Pepsi products, so sweet tea was the only acceptable choice). I was advised that sweetened iced tea was not available. My response? “I thought we won the battle here.” I believe my comment was meaningless to the attendant. I skipped a beverage at Wendy’s and picked up a Coke at a convenience store.
by NCT on Nov 12, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh
I miss T.R.R. Cobb.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Nov 12, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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