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Georgia Bulldogs v. Alabama Crimson Tide Game Day Open Comment Thread

Alabama Crimson Tide at Georgia Bulldogs, Sep 27, 2008 7:45 PM EDT


Right about the time your favorite SB Nation weblogs are becoming more mobile, I’m putting on my Knowshon Rockwell Moreno blackout jersey and heading up to the Classic City to catch up with a few friends and, oh, yeah, take in a football game while I’m there.

This, of course, is your weekly game day open comment thread, in which you are invited to share your observations regarding the day’s action, your reflections and reactions regarding tonight’s consequential collision between Georgia and Alabama between the hedges, and, heck, your thoughts on "College GameDay" and what you might have seen on the screen in front of my old dorm, Myers Hall. (If my old G.R. heard me call it a "dorm," she’d correct me and tell me it was a "residence hall," but I have no patience for uptight dormitory Napoleons.)

It also is time to name this week’s honorary game captain. To find today’s honoree, we have to go way back to 1920 to locate one James P. "Buck" Cheves. Cheves was the quarterback of the undefeated Southern Conference championship squad which was the first to be known by the nickname "Bulldogs." As chronicled by Cale Conley in his book War Between the States, Cheves played without a helmet because he claimed the headgear impaired his hearing.

On November 20, 1920, Xen Scott’s unbeaten Alabama club (8-0) rolled into Atlanta to face Herman Stegeman’s unbeaten Georgia club (6-0-1) with the S.I.A.A. title on the line. In the course of the showdown between two Southern powerhouses, a ‘Bama drop kick attempt was blocked and Cheves returned the ball 87 yards for a score.

Cheves’s return set a school record for the longest punt return for a touchdown in Red and Black history. The high water mark set in 1920 would remain the Georgia standard for nearly 30 years and it remains today the fifth-longest punt runback for a score by a Bulldog.

Georgia beat ‘Bama that day by a 21-14 final margin en route to an undefeated season and a conference crown. Here’s hoping the spirit of Buck Cheves is present in Sanford Stadium tonight.

Go ‘Dawgs!

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Watching AU/UT

I don’t really think I have the credentials to complain about this since A) I’ve only been a UGA fan (or even a fan of the sport of football in general, really) since about ‘05 and B) I don’t follow golf at all, but really: what’s up with this commercial and this Florida golfer dude naming Tennessee, LSU, South Carolina and Auburn as their biggest rivals? UT and LSU are one thing, but USC and Auburn? Yeah, Spurrier beat UF a couple years ago and Auburn went 2-0 during their last cross-divisional series, but seriously. No respect.

by wwcmrd? on Sep 27, 2008 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

First possession.

Well, we’ve punted away our first possession. We looked ok but Stafford didn’t look comfortable hanging out in the pocket on the last play.

by AcworthDawg on Sep 27, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

The game's not over...yet...

But this is an omen that perhaps ‘Blackouts’ should not be an absolute, every year thing. They can motivate the other team as well if we don’t have our game on. C’mon ’Dawgs, if they can score 31 in a half, so can we.

by The ArchDawg on Sep 27, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Blackouts

FWIW I thought it was really cool last year when it was the first time your team wore black in its history. Then I thought it was pretty lame against Hawaii. And this year I thought it had totally jumped the shark.

Declaring “black outs” and “white outs” every 3 weeks is something Vanderbilt does (although I wish we didn’t). It’s beneath your program.

by PhilipVU94 on Sep 27, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats to Bama

They just physically whipped us early and often. That lead was nearly insurmountable.

Congrats to our guys as well. We never quit and many teams would have.

The buy week is much needed right now as we are banged up in too many ways to count. But this team still can achieve alot this year. Maybe we will meet ‘em again down the road. Yeah, I’m a 1/2 full kind of guy I guess, but that’s how I roll. Damn. WIsh I just hadn’t used that verb.

by DavetheDawg on Sep 27, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Perhaps I should be afraid of the Armani Bear

Over the next two weeks, there will be the inevitable calls to fire Willie, bench Tripp Chandler, and to start a bitter discussion about what the future holds this season.

Frankly, after tonight, I don’t have the stomach for it. It was a piss poor game…there is nothing else to say about the situation.

I’m going to take a Bye week along with the Dawgs. I am swearing off College Football until Thursday, October 9th. See you guys then.

"Who knew that Florida would one day hire a coach that made us long for the graciousness and dignity of the Steve Spurrier era?"

Thus sayeth T. Kyle King

by RedCrake on Sep 27, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

You'll be back by 4:17 P.M Saturday...

because you are a fan of the game. It’s in your DNA. Because you’ll be sitting on the couch on Saturday after trying NOT to watch football and you’ll be wondering, “Hmmm…I wonder what top 10 team is going down right about now….” or you’re in Best Buys with 15 Hi-Def TV’s in the background tuned to ESPN…or because, like me, by Wednesday you’ll begin to feel the optimism and possibilities of a great season creep back into your consciousness.

And you are right about the Willie, Tripp and future of our team rhetoric that has probably already begun. Piss Poor game? A loss always is. Bottom line: We are damn young up front and played a team that was damned big and damned experienced. We’ll learn from this and be better for it.

But it sure is good to have a buy week coming up….

by DavetheDawg on Sep 27, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good comment...

Lots to learn and growing up from this one. It hurt, but the fact that they were able to throw 30 on the board in the second half shows some heart. Thank the O-line for that , and watching Jones grow up over the course of a 15 minute overtime. Yes, they’re young, but they can only get better.

by Pascagoula St. on Sep 27, 2008 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed...

Ben Jones is going to be a Rimington winner one day. And I think young AJ Green will never forget his fumble. This will serve him well.

As bad as I feel about losing, the fact that we didn’t lie down and curl up in a fetal position is sitting as well as can be expected.

Go Dawgs!

by DavetheDawg on Sep 27, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

DtD...

this is weird, but the more I’m thinking about this, the better I’m feeling. Talk about learning your priorities. It’s been said for over a month that UGA will not go undefeated, and the season can still play out perfectly putting them back in ATL. So the so-called experts are right. A one loss SEC champ? From what I’ve seen, that still gets you to Miami. (sorry, the game beer is catching up with me)

by Pascagoula St. on Sep 28, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

You might not be coming back to see this...

But I have to take issue with that analysis. Maybe I’m playing Pollyanna here, but I’m not ready to throw anyone under the bus or throw the season away just yet. If the game had ended at 31-0 then I’d call it a “piss poor game.” But it didn’t.

Alabama played an amazing first half of football. I was just as excited about the blackout as anyone else, but I was wondering, with Coach Richt’s press conference jabs, whether we getting a little too overconfident. We obviously overestimated the ability of the blackout to pump up our players and totally underestimated its ability to do likewise for Bama. It was probably too much too early. I don’t know if we can attribute that to coaching or to lack of leadership among the players.

No, intangibles can’t totally account for a 31 point deficit at the end of the first half. Penalties obviously played a part in putting us down so deep; but unloading on our players and coaches now seems a bit unfair considering they’ve been a problem all season and it would have been the most supreme kind of arrogance to believe that the kind of penalty issues we’ve been having this season would make no difference against a team like Bama.

Some of those penalties were pass interference — at least one on Bama’s first scoring drive and I think at least one more afterward. But at least the first one would have given up a touchdown anyway, so I don’t think we should really complain. Our secondary — scratch that, our entire defense on passing downs — defintely needs to improve. That much is clear. What I don’t know if it was a matter of execution or of gameplanning; need to check the 2nd half pass def stats for that.

We gave them the opportunity to completely turn this “blackout” table on us and they did so. I honestly think that if we had no GameDay and no blackout this could have been a much different 1st half.

The first half: all Bama, 31-0. The second half: all Georgia, 30-10. The first half was perfect, the second half was amazing. That — the margin between perfect and amazing — is the real margin in this game. If we had flown in the entire Missouri team, fresh and ready to go, and dumped them in Sanford at halftime, down 31-0, they don’t make this game the game our guys made it.

Last year we walked into Neyland Stadium expecting to win big, and ended up 28-0 at halftime. We lost that game. We also went on to win our next seven en route to 11-2, a Sugar Bowl win and a #2 national ranking.

This this team is superior to that one in every measurable category save maybe kicker. No, we don’t have an invincible Evil Richt this year, but knew we wouldn’t be unbeatable forever and it’s probably better to find out sooner rather than later. At this point in the season, I see no reason whatsoever to be anything less than optimistic.

Again, maybe I’m playing Pollyanna. But I think that with Florida’s loss today, it’s clear that the East title is still very much in reach. I think we’ll see this Alabama team again this season. In the Georgia Dome. With a BCSNCG berth on the line. And Bama can red us out, white us out, clone Mount Cody and put him at every tackle spot, put Joe Namath under center and Shaun Alexander in the backfield… they can resurrect Bear Bryant and have him stalking the sidelines and we’ll still give them the hardest fought game they will ever play.

It’s not over. Believe.

GO DAWGS!!!

by wwcmrd? on Sep 28, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with you

too, on the overconfident thing. It does seem that our teams in the past few seasons have needed ‘that’ loss to put things into perspective, though. That—and the bevy of losses—allows me to not gloom *too much over this. I like the heart our guys showed in the second half, and the East is still up for grabs. One game at a time.

But this still sucks. And we’ve really got to get disciplined: penalties absolutely KILLED us.

by The ArchDawg on Sep 28, 2008 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Come on man

Sure you scored 30 but lets not get crazy here. Those last 2 TD’s were against our 2nd string and you were in 4 down territory the entire 2nd half. I understand you guys are trying to see the bright side of a terrible loss but the only bright side was the 3rd quarter. The 4th quarter was all junk TD’s for you and don’t forget we scored 10 points when we had too when your D had all the momentum.

I loved to fight the UGA players had in the 3rd quarter but it was really never close….

Don't take life to seriously, you'll never get out alive.

by bammer on Sep 28, 2008 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody likes a sore winner, bammer

Y’all won this one fair and square, but, if you think it was never really close, you’re dreaming.

Enjoy the win, but don’t belittle the opponent you just beat. You won a real game, not a blowout.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Sep 28, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahhaa

Where was A.J? Where was your defense?, where was Knowshon Moreno? Wait… I mean No Shon Moreno. See you in the SEC Championship, if you can make it. Probably see Vandy.

by eatadick on Sep 28, 2008 2:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I apologize for the above...

But, as we all know, there’s always a few….

Anyway, I am among the countless Bama fans who fall into the impressed category. The second half showed your character as a team but two things went against you. 1. too big of a hole, and 2. when we wanted to turn it back on, we did. But that didn’t stop the scrapping, scraping, hitting and hustling. Good luck. Roll Tide.

by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 28, 2008 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another apology for the above

I have a large amount of respect for Georgia’s football team and their fans; it’s sad that some people feel the need to make unwarranted comments like the above.

Best of luck to you, love to see everyone back at the Georgiadome in a few months.

by CrimsonWraith on Sep 28, 2008 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

i will also apologize

For the tards that make dumbass comments and make a screen name like “eatadick”….go away your scum bag and go root for team that has no class like yourself…like Auburn!

Don't take life to seriously, you'll never get out alive.

by bammer on Sep 28, 2008 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

bammer . . .

. . . you have just redeemed yourself.

Thanks to all of you for showing class. It is much appreciated.

I’ll be dealing with the jerk with the smart-aleck screen name shortly.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Sep 28, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stuck, Wraith and bammer . . .

No need for apologies. Though while we’re on the subject of good manners, I have to admit I was impressed that one of the first things Coach Saban did during his postgame interview was to commend our team’s fight. It was polite in the least and a solid show of good sportsmanship at most.

I have to say, Alabama impressed the heck out of me:dominated up front, capitalized on opportunities, and stayed focused to the end. Solid, solid performance.

by MaconDawg on Sep 28, 2008 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

You know, I think Saban

has a great deal of respect for those kids in Athens. Tremendous. And, I think he respects Richt’s staff and their success. Do I labor under any delusion that he likes Richt personally? Not one iota, and I think that the sentiment is mutual. Barring MR going somewhere else, this is going to be a brutal (good sense) cross-divisional rivalry for a while. Good luck Dawgs

by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 28, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Barring MR going somewhere else"?

I think you meant “NS.”

Mark Richt will retire from coaching in Athens. Nick Saban’s the guy who’s a question mark to stick around the Capstone.

Either way, though, I agree: the life is back in this rivalry, thanks to the quality of the coaching.

We’ll see y’all in Atlanta in December.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Sep 28, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I respect your analysis, Mayor

But, I think I have to disagree. Saban’s retiring in Tuscaloosa, and here’s why: Like all good coaches, he has extreme ambition, and his career tracks that. Was an assistant . Succeeded. Got a HC shot at Toledo. Succeeded. Moved up to the Big Ten. Succeeded. Moved up to LSU. Succeeded with a bullet. Having an NFL background, got his shot for HC and took it. Realized it wasn’t his bag, and went back to what he loved and was successful at. You can dither about which team is more decorated, but the historically six best teams ever are USC, Michigan, Notre Dame, Alabama, Texas and Oklahoma. There is no where else to go: He’s at the top. It’s not about cupidity with Saban, it’s about being the best.

So, who knows, maybe he and Richt will retire together to the mountains of North Georgia, go fishing, and chit chat about their mutual hatred of Auburn? All I know is that Saban, in his mid-50’s is going nowhere.

by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 28, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you about the top four

Alabama, Michigan, Notre Dame, and U.S.C. are your top four, without question.

A lot of teams have a claim to No. 5 and I by no means concede that Oklahoma or Texas has a better argument than Georgia. That, though, was not your main point.

I’m not saying Nick Saban will leave; I am, however, saying that Mark Richt is less likely to leave Georgia than Nick Saban is to leave Alabama. I can expound upon that if you like, but my point was that Coach Richt is a certainty to stay, not that Coach Saban is a certainty to leave.

In other words, my quarrel wasn’t with your belief that Coach Saban will finish his career in Tuscaloosa, it was with the suggestion that Coach Richt might not finish his career in Athens. No one leaves Georgia to go coach somewhere else—-not Vince Dooley when called home by Auburn, not Jim Donnan when called home to the Tar Heel State—-and there is no coach in the country more wedded to staying put than Mark Richt.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Sep 28, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

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