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It's Time to Revive the Rivalry: Why Georgia and Clemson Need to Play More Often

Circumstances sometimes converge in such a manner that they appear to be pointing inevitably in one direction. So it is with recent events on-line.

No, I don’t mean Orson Swindle’s laughable effort to suggest that the 2008 Georgia Bulldogs couldn’t beat the Russians. (Please. If the ‘Dawgs faced Russia this year, it would weaken the Red and Black’s strength of schedule.)

Rather, I am referring to the fact that, after Clemson Tiger Nation linked to a post I wrote, I exchanged cordial e-mails with the author, who is (obviously) an Orange and Purple partisan. Around that same time, Paul Westerdawg expressed his disdain for the Fort Hill Felines (in the aftermath of Jon Richt’s departure for Lake Hartwell) and went on to reflect on Georgia’s non-conference scheduling prospects. All of that came together in my mind and coalesced into what follows.

If you’re ten or more years younger than me, please feel free to replace the foregoing "Synchronicity" allusion with a reference to "The Perfect Storm."

Just as Sunday Morning Quarterback felt ethically compelled to begin every football season with a call for a playoff, so too do I consider it my obligation to use the teachable moment on the eve of a new autumn to remind Bulldog Nation of this simple truth:

Georgia and Clemson need to play one another regularly.

One of my great fears as a ‘Dawg fan is that many Red and Black boosters, particularly that increasingly large contingent of them who are younger than I am, fail adequately to appreciate the significance of Georgia’s rivalry with the Tigers. As I wrote in the October 16, 1995, edition of The Red and Black:

We shouldn’t lightly sacrifice such a storied series as the Georgia-Clemson border war. We’ve been playing Clemson seven years longer than we’ve been playing Florida. Georgia and Clemson have met on the gridiron 60 times, exactly as many times as Alabama and Auburn will have faced one another after this year’s Iron Bowl. The Bulldogs have taken the field against over 100 opponents; Georgia has been playing Clemson longer than all but a dozen of them, and of those twelve, we continue to play just five.

The Bulldogs and the Tigers have been perpetual thorns in one another’s sides; Clemson’s only regular-season losses of the 1978, 1982, and 1991 campaigns all came between the hedges, whereas Georgia’s only regular-season setback during the three years of the Herschel Walker era came in Death Valley during Danny Ford’s 1981 national championship run.

During the two programs’ simultaneous glory days of the early 1980s, no rivalry in all of college football was more important at the national level, as Scott Woerner’s dramatic returns in 1980 and the nine turnovers forced by the Tigers the following fall effectively settled the eventual No. 1 ranking.

Likewise, no rivalry of that period was more competitive, as evidenced by the critical eleventh-hour field goals kicked by Kevin Butler in 1984 and by David Treadwell more than once later in the decade. Despite blowouts in 1990, 1994, and 2003, the series typically has remained competitive in more recent days, as two of the last three meetings were decided by two points in 1995 and three points in 2002.

Historically, there has not been the same sort of cross-pollination between Georgia and Clemson that we have seen between Georgia and Auburn, although Jon Richt’s decision to play quarterback for the Tigers may have changed that dynamic somewhat. Even leaving the current connection between the two schools aside, though, hires affecting one program often have had an impact upon the other. Consider:

  • When Auburn’s graduate manager, Walter Riggs, was charged with the responsibility of finding a new football coach to helm the Plainsmen in 1895, he hired John Heisman. Five years later, Riggs was a professor at Clemson and he brought Heisman over from the Plains to lead the team that, due to Riggs’s and Heisman’s Auburn backgrounds, came to be known as the "Tigers" in 1900. Heisman’s first year at Fort Hill marked the start of a seven-game winning streak over the Red and Black, but Georgia went back out in front in the rivalry with Clemson after Heisman left to become the head coach at Georgia Tech.


  • In his first year by the shores of Lake Hartwell, Charley Pell led the Orange and Purple to a 7-6 victory over Vince Dooley’s ‘Dawgs in Athens. Georgia’s 5-6 finish in that 1977 campaign marked the only losing season in 25 years for the Red and Black’s winningest coach and it proved to be a sea change in the rivalry; the Bulldogs had gone 10-1 against the Tigers since 1964, but, from 1977 to 1990, Clemson was 6-5-1 against the Red and Black. In his second year, Pell guided the Fort Hill Felines to a 10-1 regular-season record before departing for Florida, where he obligingly went 0-5 against the ‘Dawgs in Jacksonville between 1979 and 1983.


  • Since Vince Dooley and Danny Ford ceased to pace the sidelines in Sanford and Memorial Stadia, Georgia and Clemson have kept one another’s coaches on the hot seat, if not in the crosshairs. The Tigers’ 34-3 shellacking of the Bulldogs in 1990 knocked the wheels off of the wagon for Ray Goff’s second squad, a shaky unit that had gotten to 3-1 by the skin of its teeth before collapsing and going 4-7. Georgia’s upset win over Clemson the following year likewise did not endear the Tiger faithful to Ken Hatfield. More recently, the hiring of Tommy Bowden at Fort Hill marked the beginning of the end for Jim Donnan, whose closest assistant, Chris Scelfo, succeeded Bowden at Tulane, causing the ‘Dawgs to lose a step in Donnan’s last two years in Athens. Mark Richt came close to returning the favor in 2003, when Georgia’s eye-opening 30-0 shutout in Death Valley provided the Tigers with an inauspicious start to a season that very nearly was Bowden’s last in the Palmetto State.

Fortunately, the scheduled cessation of hostilities after 1995 did not stick, as the twelve-game schedules of 2002 and 2003 opened the door for a resumption of the rivalry and the two teams are back on one another’s schedules for 2013 and 2014. In the absence of an intervening bowl meeting, however, the decade-long break between the 2003 and 2013 games at Memorial Stadium will be the longest-ever gap in a series that dates back to 1897.

Admittedly, it would be awkward to see this being done to Mark Richt’s son.

Many younger fans of both teams may not realize it, but clashes between Georgia and Clemson used to be annual affairs. The future Tigers first took the field in 1896, and they tangled with the future Bulldogs every year from 1897 until 1916. Breaks in the rivalry were a rarity throughout the Vince Dooley era; my first autumn as a student in Athens also was the first since 1972 in which there was no Georgia-Clemson game.

We are in a fallow period in the history of the rivalry. Provided that Georgia and Clemson do not square off in a bowl game in the next five years, there will have been just six showdowns between the Bulldogs and the Tigers in the 25 seasons between 1988 and 2012. Such unfortunate stretches of only sporadic meetings are infrequent, but they are neither unprecedented nor permanent.

The two teams went through a similar period from 1917 to 1943, a time during which Georgia and Clemson played six games against one another in a 27-year span. That cycle of intermittent clashes did not last, as the two teams went back at it for four straight years from 1944 to 1947 and for two more in 1954 and 1955 before resuming regular meetings starting in 1962. The ancient rivals met 24 times in the next 26 seasons starting in the Johnny Griffith years.

In short, it can be done, and it should be done. While it is not practical for Georgia and Clemson to play every year, it is reasonable for the Classic City Canines and the Fort Hill Felines to cross paths, say, twice in any given six-year span. Respect for the rich heritage and storied tradition of the South’s most underappreciated rivalry demands such a restoration, which is long overdue.

Go ‘Dawgs!

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It occurred to me after I wrote this . . .

. . . that the Mark Richt/Jon Richt father-son connection isn’t the only present link between Georgia and Clemson:

Current Tiger quarterback Cullen Harper is the son of former Bulldog offensive lineman Jeff Harper.

Duh! I don’t know how or why that slipped my mind. My bad.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Aug 12, 2008 7:30 AM EDT   0 recs

UGA-Clemson Rivalry

I agree completely that this rivalry was one of UGA’s best. The two schools are less than a 2 hour drive apart and both fans are diehard about their football. Two stories stick out in my mind about UGA-Clemson.

My very first game as a UGA freshman in 1984 was against Clemson – the game when Kevin Butler kicked a 60 yard field goal to win the game. I’ll never forget how loud Sanford Stadium was and winding up 3 rows below my seat because everyone was hugging and jumping all over each other. Clemson was killing us at halftime and their fans were walking around like they owned the place. Before the game, someone was passing out stickers that said “Whip the Pussies” – LOL.

The second story involves a 3rd UGA-Clemson connection that pre-dates the other two mentioned above. Zippy Morocco was an ALL-SEC football player and All-American baskeball player for UGA in the 1950’s. His son Chris Morocco was a top high school QB at Clarke Central in Athens in the mid-1980’s. Everyone thought Chris would go to UGA, but he decided on Clemson. Rumor had it that when he told his father he was going to Clemson Zippy, without any emotion, looked at him and said “have fun and I’ll see you in 4 years”. Now it was probably an exaggeration, but that gives you a sense of how intense this rivalry used to be!

by ugamaninbig10land on Aug 12, 2008 11:48 AM EDT   0 recs

We were in the same freshman class

... and I think I still have one of those stickers in a box somewhere.

by NCT on Aug 12, 2008 1:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Definitely a rivalry that needs to be renewed

I’ve still got a cooler with a sticker on it that says
“Herschel Who?”

by lola on Aug 12, 2008 11:24 PM EDT   0 recs

By the way . . .

. . . I mentioned the need for a postseason renewal of the rivalry if the scheduled break between 2003 and 2013 was to be anything other than the longest-ever gap between series meetings.

Well, according to Jimson Cuenta’s extremely fanciful bowl predictions, Georgia and Clemson will meet in this year’s Sugar Bowl. . . .

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Aug 14, 2008 7:45 AM EDT   0 recs

other connections...

I think Tavarres King’s father was a Clemson stand out.

Homer Jordan, who QB’d their national title team in ’81, was a Cedar Shoals grad.

They had a huge LB/DE of some variety in the ‘89-90 time frame that was a Clarke Central kid. He was an all-ACC type player. Can’t remember his name.

Recruiting is the big connection. They’ve always done well in ATL and NE GA. And currently, they are doing extremely well in GA. It’s a good sales pitch that they have. They tell a kid, “You can trust your kid with Tommy Bowden. Just ask Coach Richt. He’ll tell you that.” Good pitch, huh?

by Paulwesterdawg on Aug 14, 2008 2:08 PM EDT   0 recs

I'm actually against playing Clemson more regularly....

About one series every 10 years is plenty for me. We’ve won 5 in a row, and the more we play them the more it helps their recruiting in our state. It’s certainly a big win for them financially when we play based on what it does for season ticket sales/demand.

That said, I think the financial implications as a fan for traveling to ASU, Ok State, Oregon, Lville, etc are going to change my position on this issue. As I said in the article you linked….a regional OCC foe every now and again would make sense to me.

I’d like to pick up a series against UNC (30 previous games) or UVA (19 previous games). Those could be fun.

Or as you and others have said, I would love to schedule games against teams we have a losing record against.

Pitt, PSU, Maryland, Texas and TAMU jump off the page as teams that would be awesome to play and get a shot at tying or leading the series.

If I could book the next 10 years of UGA OCC games, it would look like this year:

Year 1-2: PSU, GT
Year 3-4: Maryland, UNC, GT (the years we get MSU/OM/ARK for West)
Year 5-6: TAMU, GT
Year 7-8: Nebraska, GT
Year 9-10: Clemson, GT

PWD

by Paulwesterdawg on Aug 14, 2008 2:18 PM EDT   0 recs

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