Come On, Feel The Noise (Violation).
by MaconDawg
on Jun 11, 2008 3:08 PM EDT
If you ever wanted to know about the harmful effects of noise pollution, Knowshon Moreno has your back. Tucked into an article in today's Red & Black online edition largely dealing with Clint Boling and Jeremy Lomax's recent off-field problems is a summary of a university conduct proceeding from October of 2006 against Moreno and Akeem Hebron for a noise violation. After cranking the stereo a little too loud on a Saturday night, Noise-shon was assigned to write a 2 page essay on noise and noise pollution which is, whether intentional or not, a work of comic genius. To paraphrase the guy from the Red Stripe Beer ads : Booo college students sleeping in their rooms at 11:00 p.m. on a Saturday night. Hooray Open Records Act!!!
The only thing funnier is the apoplectic response of the CRB Advisor, who I'm certain is a fine, upstanding University servant. However, as an attorney who practices before the state and federal appellate courts, I'm innately suspicious of anyone who gets this snippy over page counts and formatting whilst also believing that a two page essay is either an effective deterrent or a sufficient punishment for anything more serious than putting your elbows on the table. Sorry, this sort of cynicism an occupational hazard.
I admit being a little jarred however by the fact that the noise in question was a celebratory response to our 2006 victory over Ole Miss. My response to that particular game was, as I recall, anything but celebratory. Also enjoy the bonus chuckles for Jeremy Lomax telling another irate student that his name was "I.P. Freely". Not so funny (yet also not unexpected) is the news that Clint Boling has been officially sanctioned as a result of his recent DUI arrest.
While I want our student athletes to be impeccably good citizens, I have to admit, if this is the worst stuff they do I am most pleased. It's certainly doesn't rival the worst things I or my cohorts did during college. Again, to paraphrase the Red Stripe guy, "Hooray statute of limitations!" Interesting legwork by the R&B, and a fantastic literary tour-de-force by Knowshon "Crank Dat Sarcasm" Moreno.
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Interesting...
Knowshon’s middle name is “Rockwell”? Nice.
by theburningman on Jun 11, 2008 4:51 PM EDT 0 recs
The worst part of Knowshon's "transgression"...
This was a night game. A 9:00 ET kickoff. 11:00 p.m. was during the freaking game! Putting on the CSI cap here, 11:00 is a decent enough timestamp for the 3rd quarter – the stretch in the game during which Georgia took control.
I don’t know if I want to live in a country where it’s wrong to make a little noise in one’s abode as the Dawgs get off the mat and take the lead in an SEC road game.
by Groo on Jun 11, 2008 4:57 PM EDT 0 recs
Time
As Groo noted, Knowshon said it happened at 11pm. Groo cites that couldn’t have been the correct time because of the game time.
However, the records cite that the girl called to complain about the noise at 12:45am.
But as Knowshon pointed out and the documents state, the quiet hours Saturday start at 2am.
So Knowshon technically wasn’t in violation of the quiet hours.
by fotodog on Jun 11, 2008 5:22 PM EDT 0 recs
never lived out at east campus...
but i know firsthand how dumb RA(resident assistants) or VCAs in this matter can be. Certain RAs most definitely have an agenda against students. I’m a rising senior, so three years ago so I know how dumb certain RAs can be. Mine in particular was pretty cool, as long as we weren’t having like a hall party with a keg (im exaggerating obviously) but I had friends whose RA was clearly “out to get them”. The RAs pretty much have the right to summon the police in any instance they believe some illegal or in Knowshon’s case an event that is bothersome to others.
With this case, I can’t believe that someone actually even complained. C’mon, it;s a Saturday, the football team won (although it was ugly) a little music won’t kill anybody. The person that complained is obviously not a true UGA student because I know in Creswell my freshman year, we pretty much had all our doors open playing music or tv’s on loud with various sports games on.
My point: the person that needs to be investigated here is clearly the complainant. Any reasonable student at UGA would have been doing the exact same thing 1000 out of 1000 times.
Larry Munson: "Whaddya got for us Loran?"
Loran Smith: "Well Larry, I'm down here with Charles Grant...and he just loves boiled peanuts!"
Larry Munson: "Good stuff, Loran"
by loran smith on Jun 11, 2008 7:34 PM EDT 0 recs
A hall party with a keg?
Those of us on the 4th floor of Reed Hall back in the mid-80s (for intra-community athletic competitions, we called ourselves the Reed 4 Players—get it?) had hall parties with a keg with our RA’s blessing. In fact, I think he bought the keg for us once or twice.
by NCT on
Jun 11, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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Rocking out the banana beer with Jamacan flavor, Big Ups to Dino!
Ha. Those of us living in Creswell in 2003 had them as well. 9D, the penthouse baby!
by blackertai on
Jun 11, 2008 11:46 PM EDT
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which floor did you live on loran?
i also lived in creswell for the 05-06 school year
by get swoll yunel on
Jun 12, 2008 12:13 AM EDT
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You are absolutely correct, Loran . . .
. . . but can I still call you Watson?
I still have distinct memories of the mandatory hall meeting for second floor center in Myers Hall my first night in Athens, just before I started class in fall quarter (yes, they were quarters back then) 1988. My R.A., Trent Taylor, began the meeting with the following words, which remain indelibly etched in my brain, nearly 20 years later:
“Rule No. 1: no feces in the showers.”
I remember thinking, This is going to be a totally new experience.
The point being, R.A.s need to have a sense of perspective on college life.
By the way, what’s a V.C.A.? In my day, we had G.R.s (graduate residents), who were the sorts of people who would reflexively interrupt you in mid-sentence if you said “dorm” so they could correct you with “residence hall.” Our G.R. did that, and I always wondered whether, if she wound up as a prison guard, she would interrupt felons who called it a “prison” so she could say “correctional institution.”
Anyway, I see the term “V.C.A.” and it makes me think G.R.s have been replaced with the Viet Cong. Which, all things considered, might be a distinction without a difference.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Jun 11, 2008 8:48 PM EDT 0 recs
haha
Watson is fine kyle, i figured loran smith was way catchier with this new sb nation site. Anyway, a VCA is a Village Community Assistant. They are the same thing as a RA except thats what the East Campus dorms call them (we call that area ECV for East Campus Village which is Ramsey, the dining hall, and the dorms). I don’t know how many of you have seen the inside of the ECV dorms but they are set up pretty much like an apartment complex. Actually, that’s pretty much what they are except since it’s UGA property, they have VCAs that serve as pseudo RAs if you will. The VCAs are basically supposed to be there to keep order in case things get crazy but since it’s a looser set up than the dorms the VCAs really don’t do a whole lot other than those mandatory meeting that NCT spoke of. I have never lived over there but I have been there multiple times with people I know that have lived over there so I more or less know how things work.
As you can see from the link, the ECV dorms are four buildings and I’m pretty sure but not positive that the majority of the athletes are in McWhorter and 1514 but they are necessarily relegated to just those two buildings. I say all that to say this: these places are really nice units with multiple beds and baths and are pretty much apartments except in name. Basically this VCA made a mountain out of a mole hill with this issue. I applaud Knowshon for his efforts to show this impropriety with his Pulitzer worthy piece of work.
NCT: With UGA’s new alcohol policy, cops patrol the dorm hallways and bathrooms all night looking for excessive noise coming from rooms and those that are in the bathroom hugging the toilet after a long night of stimulating Athens’ economy downtown. There were myths about people sneaking in kegs while I was a freshman with the huge luggage carts/ bins but I never saw it personally. Put it this way, we had to be creative just to be able to toss a few back on our own without others finding out. UGA has turned the resident authority into some sort of gestapo these days.
Kyle: GRs still exist had she (yes she) had the honor of living on the same hall as 26 other guys. I have some fun stories from that experience
Larry Munson: "Whaddya got for us Loran?"
Loran Smith: "Well Larry, I'm down here with Charles Grant...and he just loves boiled peanuts!"
Larry Munson: "Good stuff, Loran"
by loran smith on
Jun 11, 2008 9:32 PM EDT
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Cool
In my day, what is now known as “East Campus” was the Parking Services building and a whole lot of blacktop.
How long ago was I there? In the wholly bogus student “referendum” upon the subject, I voted against the construction of what was then called the “SPACenter” (which student government president Howie Manis and his minions pronounced “space center,” but which properly ought to be pronounced “spa center” or, perhaps, “spack enter”).
Good times, good times.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on
Jun 11, 2008 10:31 PM EDT
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History
You will doubtless recall, Kyle, that it was the Center later to be called Ramsey that was the whole reason behind the reestablishment of student government at UGA. A few years before my time, student government was disbanded shortly after the Unknown Candidate (a fraternity brother of mine) ran for president with a bag over his head. The University wanted to build a student physical activities center (SPACenter), which was to be funded, in part, by student fees. To legitimize this assessment on students, the administration figured there ought to be an organization that could be called the voice of the student body, so they created the Student Association (the “government” part was added years later). A few selected students (let’s see, I think there was Audrey Haynes, Clay McKemie may have been a part of the initial push, and—well, a few other names escape me at the moment, but I do recall there was a serious OJP flavor to the initial “committee”, most of whom were actually friends of mine) campaigned for the SA’s establishment and, thereafter, the approval of a measure to assess additional fees against future students to build the Center.
Granted, some of my specifics may be a bit hazy so many years later, but I, too, was present at the creation, witnessing the entire contrivance from the JC office conveniently located between OJP and VP-Student Affairs.
I think the Ramsey Center turned out to be a fine thing, to be sure, but its genesis was a bizarre sequence of propped-up facades [can’t find a cedille (studied French, not Spanish) on my laptop].
The absence of a student government had its quirks. Student advisors to the Board of Regents (I did that one year) were appointed by the administration following interviews. Generic promotional items sent to the University and directed to “SGA President” were routed to the Chief Justice, since “Student Judiciary” sounded closer to a government-type institution than anything else. I got a couple of cute Bulldog watches, some pens, and countless solicitations that way (I’m sure the head of the University Union got his or her share, as well).
Please accept my apologies for the extending the tangent.
by NCT on
Jun 12, 2008 8:39 AM EDT
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Bah, not so hard
That’s how we rolled. You filled one of the big grey carts with a keg and ice, and then put folded clothes on top. We just said we were coming back from a laundry service place. Plus, the year I was there, Creswell’s washer/dryers sucked, so it was kind of believable. Granted, the fact that there were like 12 guys walking in with their clothes at the same time should have tipped someone off.
by blackertai on
Jun 11, 2008 11:50 PM EDT
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alcohol policy
Well, you’ve got to understand that when I was a freshman, the legal drinking age was 19. When I was a sophomore, it was 20. When I was a junior, it was 21. Alcohol laws and regulations were just starting to take on a whole new flavor. Those were the days when we used to have unattended beer trucks pulled up into fraternity house lawns so anyone and everyone could step up to a tap. When I went through rush, we had an experimental “dry rush night” once or twice per rush period; otherwise, fraternity rush consisted of three or so weeks of nightly open parties. The University from which I graduated bore very little resemblance (alcohol-policy-wise) from the University in which I initially enrolled.
by NCT on
Jun 12, 2008 8:44 AM EDT
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Just let me say . . .
when I checked the site and saw that there were seven comments on this post, I expected there to be a debate going on with some guy saying “WAHHH!!! Football players are always breaking the rules!!! WAHHH!!!” The fact that our readers also wondered instead “What was she doing sleeping?” only bolsters my confidence in you as a group.
And my good friend and law school roommate Matt gave up being an RA after some freshman lit a garbage can on fire in front of his door. And he was one of the good, beer buying RA’s. I don’t think that has anything to do with this conversation, but it was funny, after the fact.
by MaconDawg on Jun 11, 2008 9:44 PM EDT 0 recs
Some of my funniest stories....
from college where the multiple keg parties we had in the dorm (Myers ‘97). Four of us had a suite. The keg was placed in the tub so each room had equal access. Sometimes a huge trash can w/ hunch punch would be there as well.
Welp….by the fourth party, word had been spreading of our shenanigans. Each party before this had grown a little larger. The last time, both rooms, couldn’t hold the amount of people who showed up for free beer and alcohol.
Cops showed up around midnight to tell us people just can’t be hanging out in the halls (luckily no one in the hall was holding a cup) and music had to be turned down. I played it off nicely and told them we’d make everyone leave….EXCEPT I KNEW I couldn’t do that – the party had gotten too far outta control. I LEFT around 1:00am because trouble was brewing (pun intended). I went and slept w/ a girl at Brumby leaving my roommate to deal w/ the cops who showed back up an hour later. He was arrensted and the kegs confiscated. I had to bail him out of jail the next morning and sign for the kegs (since I was the only one who was 21).
FUN TIMES!!!!!!
by MidGADawgs on Jun 12, 2008 8:04 AM EDT 0 recs
Who put the Tech fan in charge??
“Brad Harmon”-the mighty enforcer of 2 page essay formatting-is a Tech fan according to his facebook page! We can’t have these Nerds “flagging” our records. Tech Lies and Cheats—what do they know about following the rules (See games, vacated). Maybe Tech fans are the chief of the UGA and Athens-Clarke police, too. We need an investigation.
by LymanHall on Jun 12, 2008 3:08 PM EDT 0 recs
Liars and cheaters, perhaps
But those vacated games were reinstated on review. Don’t make the mistake of claiming Tech had to forfeit any of their most recent (heh … “recent”) victories over UGA. Otherwise, carry on!
by NCT on
Jun 12, 2008 5:16 PM EDT
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I can't believe you posted this.
It’s so much funnier (to opposing teams) for it’s middle school grammar and spelling than it is for any sarcasm. If there were sports courts, I’d have you brought up on charges of giving aid and comfort to the enemy in a time of rivalry.
by wesgiglio on Jun 12, 2008 7:59 PM EDT 0 recs
It was a pre-emptive strike
Better we get it first and spin it than let our rivals be the ones who brought it to light.
Aid and comfort to the enemy? MaconDawg is a patriot, sir, and Knowshon Moreno is a gentleman and a scholar-athlete.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on
Jun 12, 2008 8:06 PM EDT
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However . . .
. . . MaconDawg’s story carried other unintended consequences.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on
Jun 12, 2008 9:23 PM EDT
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So far the response has been almost totally positive: SMQ’s post had me roaring. But I can hear the train a comin’.
Sorry, Macondawg, I would never question your patriotism. but being from the south, I would have thought with all your devotion to the blogospere, and your feeling of loyalty and duty to the information superhighway, you guys were incapable of lifting your hand against your favorite players, coaches, and your home team.
All in good humor, of course. It is funny.
by wesgiglio on Jun 12, 2008 11:23 PM EDT 0 recs
We're with you, Wes
If we take any crap off of opposing fans over this, we’ll just grin and bear it until football season.
Then, whenever the stadium goes bonkers after Knowshon Rockwell Moreno scores a touchdown, we’ll turn to the nearest opposing fan and ask him if he thinks all that cheering constitutes a noise violation.
If he does, he can read my two-page essay upon the subject right here on January 9, 2009 . . . the day after the national championship game.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on
Jun 12, 2008 11:33 PM EDT
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Wes, as a proud graduate of the Georgia public schools I ask you . . .
what middle school grammar and spelling?
by MaconDawg on
Jun 13, 2008 9:23 AM EDT
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I expected someone to catch this...
... on the page after his essay, on what looks like a screenshot of the form the RA’s fill out to report a violation, the last option is “Hate Crime?” and thankfully, the RA chose to give Knowshon a break and chose “Not a Hate Crime”.
by Horn Brain on Jun 13, 2008 9:00 AM EDT 0 recs
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