Random Friday Morning Thought
Rocky Top Talk’s Joel has been trying to talk me into getting a TiVo. I, of course, am dead set against it.
Not that I needed additional reasons to avoid having that infernal HAL-9000-with-a-satellite-dish in my house, but now I have extra ammunition to use in my steadfast opposition to acquiring a digital video recorder.
One of the supposed strengths of TiVo is its ability to recommend programming for you based upon your viewing patterns, a la Amazon.com. I find that more than slightly creepy, but now a further problem with this concept has come to light:
My wife, Susan, a wonderful woman whom I love dearly, watches crap!

Also, the name of the device sounds eerily similar to the surname of the Root of All Evil, but that’s a separate issue altogether.
The other night, while Susan was sorting laundry in the living room, I caught her watching "Jon and Kate Plus 8," a "reality" (read: unscripted) show about a married couple who are neither likeable nor compatible yet who have eight small children. We’re not talking about a family with eight kids like the one on "Eight is Enough," in which Dick Van Patten made former "Crossfire" co-host Tom Braden seem palatable; we’re talking about television that will aggravate you 47 different ways.
Last night, before I put our son, Thomas, to bed and she put our daughter, Elizabeth, to bed, Susan made me promise her that, if (read: when) she fell asleep, I was to make sure she was up in time to watch "Step It Up and Dance," to which I routinely refer as "The World’s Most Effeminate Man Competition." How horrid is this ill-conceived offspring of an unholy union between "The Apprentice" and "A Chorus Line"? It’s so bad that, even though it features Elizabeth Berkley standing around looking like Elizabeth Berkley, I still can’t bring myself to watch it!
If I got a TiVo, I’d get home in the afternoon, and that ominous omniscient box would announce, "I recorded the following programs I thought Susan might like. Would you like to see them?"
That’s what I need . . . more crappy T.V. suggestions. Voluntarily providing my wife with a co-conspirator in her incessant efforts to expose me to the worst that our too many channels have to offer? Thanks, but no thanks.
Go ‘Dawgs!
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TiVo
I have TiVo. I love TiVo. The “suggestions” feature, however, is the least useful thing about it. I happen to like The Simpsons and Family Guy. As a result, TiVo wants to go out and record just about every animated show supposedly not for “children” that there is. I may live within a few blocks of the home of Adult Swim, but it’s just not my thing. Maybe I’m too old.
But here’s the thing. In addition to never missing episodes of the few shows I actually do want to watch, if I decide there’s a particular movie I want to see, or for some reason I’d like to watch movies directed by Scorsese or starring Jimmy Stewart or documentaries about Alexander the Great or whatever, I tell TiVo about it, and BAM! it starts collecting them, regardless of what time they’re shown or on what channel (provided, of course, it’s on a channel I actually receive). Just the other day, it occurred to me that it’s been a long time since I’ve seen Night of the Hunter, but it wasn’t something I was just dying to see right at that moment (to the point where I needed to run to Blockbuster). So I told TiVo to get it. And now it’s there, waiting for me. Every once in a while, I scroll through the upcoming films shown on Turner Classic Movies and pick the ones that look interesting, so I have a stack of good movies available at all times. There have been times when I’m at the office and I’ll find out that some show or movie is going to be on that I’d like to see. I just get on my PC at work and tell TiVo to get it for me.
Yes, I’m not just a convert, I’m a proselytizer. Next up, the iPod.
Yep
You’re right about that. I don’t use the suggestion feature. It does, however, do a good job of finding the Tennessee nuggets buried in 700 channels of nothing.
Also, the next best thing is, if you’re late for kickoff, being able to start watching a football game that’s recording before it’s finished recording. With a VCR, you’d have to either miss the beginning or wait until it was over to start watching it.
Count me in the proselytizing camp. But let’s face it, Kyle is hopelessly LOST. We’re going to have to leave him on the island.
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on May 16, 2008 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm with you Joel
Except my wife won’t let me get it. (insert jokes about being controlled).
We’ve got 2 options in Chicago, Comcast and RCN. Our building has a rule against satellite, so we get raked over the coals every month when the bills come. Tossing in an extra 10 a month on an already unpalatable bill makes me cringe a tad too.
Time for deregulation!
by Maize n Brew Dave on May 16, 2008 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Solution
Play your wife’s arguments against the stand-alone TiVo frame-by-frame so you can closely probe for weaknesses. Then, hit the 8-second skip back button three times and try again. Repeat until you win.
Then hide the remote.
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on May 16, 2008 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course this works in reverse . . .
I think my wife cringes everytime My Cousin Vinny comes on. The prospect of me being able to retrieve it at any time would surely mortify her. Oh, and I watched about 3 minutes of Jon and Kate Plus Eight once before changing the channel. It’s rare that I find a show’s characters both annoying and boring at the same time. Thank goodness there was an Ice Road Truckers marathon on as an alternative.
Baby, bathwater, etc.
I just have the generic DVR with my FIOS service, but Joel is right about the merits of being able to deal with missing starts of games, etc. A lot of USC games tend to start at 4.30 eastern, and much as I enjoy Trojan football, it won’t pick my nursing home. Using the DVR means being able to step away from the game to go through the dinner to bed cycle with the kids, and then catch up at faster than the speed of play.
As for encouraging your wife, perhaps I am putting too much strain on Mrs DC Trojan’s forbearance, but if she puts something on the television that I don’t want to watch, I leave the room.
Tivo/DVR
How much better could your game re-caps be if you could return from Athens and queue up the game you just watched on your television and go through it again?
Plus, NO COMMERCIALS. Never again would you have to watch commercials. But the most important thing is the game recaps.
I feel your pain...
...on the Jon and Kate Plus 8/assorted crappy TV. The Girl loves the Jon and Kate Plus 8 and any number of other completely mind numbing shows (Rock of Love 2? Yes, I know who won…or lost depending on how you look at it), but she does love the Office and Arrested Development, so it’s not all bad. Still, the number of arguments that have started with “why don’t you come in here with meeeeeee?” immediately followed by “because I am NOT watching that” are far too many to count.
I am grateful for everyone's feedback . . .
. . . and particularly the solidarity on the “Jon and Kate Plus Eight” front.
As I hope I have made clear, my opposition to TiVo is personal and I do not fault anyone who has it, although my experience with watching games at the homes of friends who have TiVo has been less than optimal enjoyment, as with the instance in which my host rewound the game to watch a play again then fastforwarded through the network replay of the play we just reviewed so we could catch up to real-time game action. Why, I wondered, didn’t we just watch the network replay?
DC Trojan makes a very valid point about the need to break away from the game to deal with parental responsibilities. This I have done on many an occasion, missing parts of games in the process, but I happily accept this as a cost of fatherhood, which (as I know DC Trojan would agree) is an experience in which the benefits far, far outweigh the burdens. (I am especially cognizant of this fact after having attended my son’s pre-K graduation ceremony on Friday evening.)
When parenting does not present a direct conflict, however, I simply arrange my schedule so that other obligations do not interfere. Missing the first few minutes of a game simply is not a problem I allow myself to encounter.
While I see NCT’s point about making movies available for later viewing, I have spent a great many years building up a fairly solid library of D.V.D.s and, before that, videotapes. If I know I’m going to want to see a movie more than once, I just buy the thing, so, anytime I want to watch it, it’s right there on the shelf, readily accessible in alphabetical order.
Those of you who are still sufficiently attuned to popular culture to watch first-run television doubtless find TiVo useful, but, after it became commonplace for me never to have heard either of the host or of the musical guest of a given week’s episode of “Saturday Night Live,” I simply accepted the reality that I was no longer going to participate in “water cooler conversations” like I did when I was following “Twin Peaks” religiously.
Now, I solicit the opinions of friends I trust and buy D.V.D. box sets of television series about which I have heard good things. I understand why not everyone chooses to do this, but, for those of us who do, TiVo is superfluous.
(Incidentally, one of the things that first turned me off to the very idea of TiVo--and, thankfully, none of you have steered into this territory—was the large number of people who told me that, because of TiVo, they no longer were “a slave to my television.” So many people used this exact phrase that I began to wonder whether, whenever a fellow purchased a D.V.R., he had a chip implanted in his brain which compelled him to recite this line in robotic fashion after joining a herd of independent minds.
(Even back when I watched first-run television, I wasn’t a slave to my T.V. I set a timer on my V.C.R., taped the shows I wanted to watch, and fastforwarded through the commercials. When “30 Rock” premiered, I was interested in watching it, but it came on at 8:00, which was bad timing for me, as that is during the period in which Thomas is being put to bed. The first few times the show was on, I wasn’t in a position to set a timer to record it, so I missed the first few episodes.
(With a TiVo, I wouldn’t have missed them, but, because I missed them, do you know what I did? I didn’t watch the show. I waited a year, until enough friends of mine told me I would like it that I went out and bought the D.V.D. box set of the first season of the show. Who is less enslaved to his television than that?)
All that aside, though, I take wesgiglio’s point to heart. No, not the point about commercials--I don’t mind commercials; they are a natural part of the ebb and flow of television viewing, I can always fastforward through the bad ones or use that time to go to the bathroom or the kitchen, and sometimes (as with the Super Bowl) commercials are what we want to see—but the point about the game recaps.
That’s an exceedingly good point, wesgiglio. Brian Cook of MGoBlog is able to do the most comprehensive postgame breakdowns anywhere outside of a Division I-A football film room because he TiVos Michigan’s games and analyzes them in minute detail.
While I would never parse the minutiae of a Georgia football game in such exacting fashion, I can see how TiVoing the Bulldogs’ games would augment the coverage offered here, and that is a very valid consideration to which I shall have to give further thought.
Kudos, wesgiglio. I’m not saying I’m sold, but, while others have presented legitimate reasons why TiVo benefited them, that may be the first argument I’ve heard why TiVo would benefit me.
Go 'Dawgs!

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