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Tuberville Out At Auburn: A Brief Postmortem And What It Means For You.

I know, I said that I'd be back with basketball coverage. But that was before our neighbors to the west decided to metaphrically torch The Barn to kill the rats. I've been waiting so long to type that . . .

As has been widely reported across the interwebs, and first reported here at Dawgsports by SG Standard, Tommy Tuberville appears to be out as the Head Football Coach at the Alabama Polytechnic Institute.

After their close loss against us it was looking like Tubs would save his job. It seemed the consensus among Auburn fans (at least those smart enough to manipulate a computer) that Ears deserved the chance to turn things around. After a shellacking soap and water won't wash off at the hands of Alabama, however, it looks like the Auburn administration decided it was time to see other people.

Internet rumor has it that Auburn AD Jay Jacobs may have asked Tuberville to make staff changes that Tuberville, out of loyalty, was not willing to make. This seems a little hard to believe given that in the past he has gladly jettisoned coordinators the way sailors of old would when mired in the horse latitudes. But he has kept some guys around for the duration, such as Georgia alum Hugh Nall. So maybe there is some credence to this one.

Back when Nick Saban was brought onboard at Alabama, I argued that it was fantastic long term news for Georgia fans. My reasoning was that a strong Alabama program hurts Auburn's, and hurting Auburn's football fortunes can never be a bad thing for us. It didn't take Henry Kissinger to see how the geopolitical gridiron battle between Saban and Tuberville was going to turn out. Like something from Mad Max, two men would enter the state of Alabama, and one would definitely leave. I figured it would be Tuberville, I just didn't figure it would be only two years later. That caught me totally by surprise.

Is this the right decision? I say no. Not because I thought Tuberville deserved another year, or that Auburn owed him a chance to turn it around. For better or worse college football is a business, and Tuberville did not produce this year. It was Auburn's perogative to send him shivering into the cold with a paltry $6 million dollars (the blogger typed with jealousy welling up inside).

No, it was the wrong move because I find it hard to believe that anybody else will do better. There's early interest in hiring the dread pirate Leach, who's been making eyes at the University of Washington. I can't imagine that he'd be too interested. He's just trying to wrangle a raise out of Texas Tech and he's enough of a contrarian to look at this job and simply pass on it. Because he doesn't need the drama. The expectations at Auburn are sky high, and Nick Saban isn't going anywhere. Anyone dumb enough to take the Auburn job under these circumstances is simply too dumb to be an SEC coach.***

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It's what some would call a call a . . . you know.

Perhaps Jimbo Fisher will get tired of waiting for Bobby Bowden to nod off in his raisin bran. Perhaps they'll hire one of those nice mid-major guys with a resume stuffed with cupcake wins over Grand Valley State and Paducah Tech. Perhaps (the blogger typed gleefully) they'll go full-on mercenary and try to get Rich Rodriguez.

What about (most delicious of all) Bobby Petrino. Can you imagine the flack Auburn would take at this point for hiring the one guy who's probably the best fit for the job? Glorious. Unfortunately, it appears that Petrino's contract with Arkansas contemplates just such a scenario. Sad.

For we Georgia fans, this means that Auburn should be set to wander in the wilderness for a while. If that's what they want, let 'em have it. I suggest you sit back and enjoy it. The debacle probably helps us in recruiting as well. Two prospects in particular, DE Montez Robinson and TE Phillip Lutzenkirchen, appeared set to pick Auburn, but have backpedaled a little given Tubs' situation. Robinson was already planning to take a hard look at Georgia, and this can't hurt at all. I imagine he will look at our roster of defensive ends and see the possibility of immediate playing time. Lutzenkirchen was a solid Auburn commit until all this started, but now seems interested in Georgia, Florida, South Carolina and a host of others. We'll almost certainly make a run at him as well, even though it will be tough to get into contention this late.

This firing smells a lot like David Cutcliffe's ouster at Ole Miss to me, and the public relations blowback will probably be similar. If the Auburn faithful aren't completely sold on the idea, you can imagine that convincing the rest of us that this is smart will be just about impossible. Kind of like the odds of Auburn reeling off six in a row against 'Bama again any time soon.

***Another fantastic angle to Auburn angling for Mike Leach? That spread-tastic offense he's running was developed by Leach while he was working under Hal Mumme at Kentucky alongside . . . Tony Franklin. The irony could only be more delicious if you covered it with chocolate chips and gumdrops.

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Not sure what to make of this situation

I completely agree that Tubbs should have been given another year to turn things around, plus you run into that age old question of “Who out there is better?”. I am not convinced that Lane Kiffin will be the savior in K town that everyone thinks he will be, so who is Auburn going to hire to be their savior?

On a good note, it would appear that both of these teams will probably be down (or not much better) next year.

by RocketDawg on Dec 4, 2008 11:39 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Savior

Will be the guy who comes after whoever they hire next. The head coach for 09 will be a ’tweener, and Auburn will be a disappointment for 2-3 years depending on the length of the leash. Huzzah!

by knowshon loves legos on Dec 4, 2008 12:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Along the lines of

  . . . Cutcliffe — Orgeron — Nutt at Ole Miss? Although I wouldn’t want to wish 08 Rebels-level success on a resurgent Auburn team, we could only pray to be so lucky as to have an Orgeron equivalent take the reigns on the Plains.

by wwcmrd? on Dec 4, 2008 1:11 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree RocketDawg . . .

and quite frankly, the only things Lane Kiffin has demonstrated to me that he can do effectively are revise a resume and ace a job interview. Everything else is a solid mystery.

Of all the people who’ve had a gleeful year (and admittedly, there aren’t many), one would have to imagine Nick Saban is at the top of the list. His two perennial rivals are in the throes of regime change and he’s one game away from playing for the National Championship in his second year on the job. A merry holiday season in the Saban household. Assuming Nick has time for that stuff.

by MaconDawg on Dec 4, 2008 11:57 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AU fans are trying to discount that Saban/Alabama had anything to do with this

Which i think is just plain stupid. You’re going to tell me that the AU administration paid no attention to what Saban has done so quickly at Alabama? And you’re telling me they didn’t look at Tubbs and think “What are you doing?”.

When you are an Alabama fan you have to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because i want to.

by bammer on Dec 4, 2008 12:30 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Auburn police detectives...

..questioned Saban and they don’t believe he had anything to do with it, either…

All the same, they asked him not to leave the state without permission until it gets sorted out…

by War Eagle Atlanta on Dec 5, 2008 4:04 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is why i love coming here

No other blog would or could write something like this (besides RBR of course). Great post, great thoughts and i just love all the digs at AU. (wipes tear from eye)

When you are an Alabama fan you have to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because i want to.

by bammer on Dec 4, 2008 12:23 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bammer I just think . . .

sometimes as the old expression goes “you have to call a spade a spade, except when it’s a shovel.” To say that Saban’s success at Alabama didn’t have any bearing would strike me as incredibly disingenuous. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. And only Jay Jacobs and crew know the thought process that went into this decision. But as a semi-disinterested observer it looks like pure panic to me.

by MaconDawg on Dec 4, 2008 12:35 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is actually pretty good right up by Ivan Maisel

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=3743358

I think he hit it on the head!

When you are an Alabama fan you have to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because i want to.

by bammer on Dec 4, 2008 12:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One thing no one is talking about

What is Tubberville gonna do now? Is he done coaching? I can’t imagine it. I can see maybe a year off from coaching, but he has to go coach somewhere, right?

Maybe he’ll replace Lane Kiffin at Tennessee next year and Lane Kiffin will go to Mississippi State.

by UgaBulldog14 on Dec 4, 2008 1:18 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There are rumors and i say RUMORS

He’s staying on at Auburn in some fashion to help with the transition. What does that mean? The AU boys are hoping its as the AD but that will never happen.

When you are an Alabama fan you have to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because i want to.

by bammer on Dec 4, 2008 3:11 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tommy to Georgia?

Wasn’t he a DC at Miami (Richt’s alma mater)? Could we use a good DC who’s also a good recruiter? Meanwhile, I’m still thinking ………

It's a gas, gas, gas.

by Keith Richards on Dec 4, 2008 1:32 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Something is very fishy

Now ESPN is reporting that the AD at AU is surprised TT resigned. What gives? They report that he risigned with buyout in hand, but now the AD is surprised he resigned. How can he resign wothout being pushed out and still get his $6M?

by marktheshark on Dec 4, 2008 3:21 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The new Dean of SEC Coaches

I remember a post by Kyle on this very blog that pointed out after Fulmer’s firing that if Tubs went down the same road, Coach Mark Richt would become the new Dean of SEC coaches. Well, this is now the case.

by marktheshark on Dec 4, 2008 4:08 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

that just means more will be expected of him, especially if Urban or Saban get their 2nd ring this year.

When you are an Alabama fan you have to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because i want to.

by bammer on Dec 4, 2008 8:13 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This thought occurred to me this morning:

In his best season as an S.E.C. coach, Mark Richt lost one game.

In his best season as an S.E.C. coach, Urban Meyer lost one game.

In his best season as an S.E.C. coach, Steve Spurrier lost one game.

In his best season as an S.E.C. coach, Les Miles lost two games.

Pending the results of the final two games of this season, in his best season as an S.E.C. coach, Nick Saban lost one game.

Who are the last two coaches to have led an S.E.C. team to an undefeated season?

Phillip Fulmer in 1998 and Tommy Tuberville in 2004.

Before that, it was Terry Bowden in 1993.

The last head coach to lead an S.E.C. team to an undefeated season and leave that school on his own terms and on his own timetable was Gene Stallings, who led the Tide to an unbeaten record in 1992.

“What have you done for me lately,” indeed.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Dec 5, 2008 9:21 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dread Pirate Leach...

I’m totally borrowing that for our new coach…

by War Eagle Atlanta on Dec 5, 2008 4:03 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll license it . . .

for $1.50 per use. That’s only one semester’s tuition at Auburn:)

by MaconDawg on Dec 5, 2008 6:43 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Deal!!

Although the word is waning on Leach and warming on Jimbo Fisher. If you guys care, I’ve set up a rumor clearinghouse over at our house…

by War Eagle Atlanta on Dec 5, 2008 6:56 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What's Fisher's buyout (for lack of a better term) at Florida State?

I know that, when he was made “head coach in waiting,” the deal was that, if he wasn’t head coach by a certain year in the near future, F.S.U. owed him a truckload of cash, and, if Jimbo so much as interviewed elsewhere before then, he owed F.S.U. a truckload of cash.

I’ve forgotten the details, though. What would it cost Auburn to buy Coach Fisher’s way out of Tallahassee?

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Dec 5, 2008 7:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm told...

$2.5M, which is astronomical for an OC, but I don’t lend a lot of credence to this hire. Fisher worked under Buster Brown Bowden there and knows how Lowder is, so I doubt he’d want to go down the same road.

Could be a bit of misinfo from us to get someone else on board…

by War Eagle Atlanta on Dec 5, 2008 8:38 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks

Yeah, I knew it was huge; I remembered when they made this deal that it basically made it prohibitively expensive for either Florida State not to hire him or Coach Fisher not to stick around Tallahassee.

Even if a school had all the money in the world—-and I’m not too sure how Colonial Bank and YellaWood are doing in the current economic climate—-you’d have to think a guy that signed such a deal was serious about keeping his word . . . although I guess that’s what West Virginia thought when Rich Rodriguez signed a new deal with a huge buyout, too.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Dec 6, 2008 12:26 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, maybe he'll . . .

bring Terry B. back with him!

by MaconDawg on Dec 5, 2008 9:25 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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