How come no one is giving us a shot at the BCS?
Historically the loser of a conference championship game has not received a BCS berth, yet pundits across the board are using Florida and Alabama interchageably in the BCS Championship Game and Sugar Bowl. One of those teams will lose in Atlanta.
For example last year Missouri went into the Big 12 Championship game ranked #1 and with one loss. After losing to Oklahoma for a second time the Tigers (still ranked in the Top 5) were shipped off to the Cotton Bowl in favor of Kansas going to the Orange Bowl. How is our scenario this year any different other than the fact that the networks are lining up to gush over Urban Meyer and Nick Saban?
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Reasons
1. If Alabama loses, it is their first loss and only loss, and it will be to a top 5 team.
2. If Florida loses, they might miss the Sugar Bowl, but remember UGA was their last year and so the Bowl may take them over us.
3. Texas Tech
4. USC
5. Texas
6. Penn St, Ohio St and/or Mich St
7. Some craptastic ACC team
8. Cinn
9. Utah
10. Boise St.
Honestly
Because we got manhandled by both Florida and Alabama. Presuming they both win out, the winner will go to the BCS Championship game and since the Sugar Bowl would have first selection due to losing the SEC Champion will likely take the next highest ranked SEC school, which would be the loser of the SEC title game. After that, the BCS has the two teams per conference limit which would exclude any other SEC team from getting in. The only way to throw a wrench in this would be for the Citadel, FSU, and Alabama to beat Florida (highly unlikely scenario). Even if Alabama lost to Auburn and beat Florida they will still get the Sugar Bowl nod as SEC champ and I have to believe a 2-loss Florida team would be ranked higher than a 2-loss Georgia team based on the head to head. In that scenario, Florida would get any at-large BCS bid before Georgia. Maybe a 2-loss Alabama team that loses to both Auburn and Florida would be ranked lower than Georgia in the final BCS, but I believe in that case (assuming the standings today hold up) that the Pac-10 will get two bids (Oregon St and USC), the Big 12 will get two bids (Texas and the Oklahoma/Texas Tech winner), Big East Champ, Acc Champ, Penn State/Michigan State winner, SEC Champ and most likely runner up, and Utah will hold the 10 BCS bids. Of course, if Oregon State loses or Missouri were to win the Big 12 would put a huge wrench in everything but as it stands, Georgia is way on the outside looking in.
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I Agree with RocketDawg
Call me optimistic, but with last year’s losing spree of top 10 teams, towards the end of College Football. I think it will be us and Utah in the Sugar.
Because UGA has to be the yearly patsy
They can put us up against this year’s “cinderalla” type team and justify it by telling the opponent they get a top notch SEC team, and telling UGA we get a hot opponent. They play it like they expect a great thriller. But you either get a) Hawaii slaughtered or b) the embarrasment in a game such as West Virginia where they can feel justified in not giving UGA street cred.
Until UGA wins the big games – this trend will continue. Big games next year – all of them. We have to dominate lesser opponents, and win the big games. The press will give you one ‘surprise close game’ – but isnt going to give you much support for – well, barely getting by against kentucky and auburn and getting your butt handed to you against Florida and Alabama.
It's simple math
Assuming there are no upsets—-and it would take a major upset for either of the top two teams in the S.E.C. to lose—-Alabama will be no worse than 12-1 after the S.E.C. championship game, Florida will be no worse than 11-2 after the S.E.C. championship game, and Georgia will be no better than 10-2 after the S.E.C. championship game. In other words, the Bulldogs almost certainly won’t have a record as good as the loser of the S.E.C. championship game, to whom Georgia will have lost head-to-head.
The Missouri example is a good one. The Tigers should have gone to a B.C.S. bowl. That the system is unlikely to compound last year’s injustice by perpetuating it this year is to the B.C.S.’s credit. The loser of the S.E.C. championship game deserves the Sugar Bowl more than Georgia does.
Go 'Dawgs!
Add on
The other thing about the BCS is that they are trying to get the most amount of revenue. Does anyone really think that Alabama going to any BCS bowl would not be a bigger drawl than UGA? I say this not because UGA does not travel well, which they do. I am speaking more of the length of time between BCS games for Alabama. The excitement for any game (Sugar or Orange) would be huge for the Alabama fan base.
I would think the best opportunity would be if Florida lost to Florida State, and then lost the SEC championship game as well. If UGA wins out then they would have the better record, and may have more momentum to be picked over a deflated Florida team. That would be my guess, but that would be heavily dependent on Florida losing. I would also think that UGA would have to come out and crush GT to help their cause. I think most people have downgraded UGA over the last few close wins, and of course the Cocktail Party game.
I for one would definitely rather see UGA in a BCS game than a Utah or Boise State. Heck, I would rather see UGA in a BCS game than any of the ACC teams.
Sorry I got so longwinded in my earlier comment...
…but there’s literally hundreds of different scenarios depending on unexpected upsets and the like. I have to respectfully disagree with your point on the length of time between BCS bowls for Alabama though. Obviously that would be a factor in taking them if they don’t win the SEC title, but I don’t think that’s the main driver. If Alabama ends with one loss coming in the SEC Championship, it will have earned its way into a BCS bowl on the field this year, not because it’s been 10 years since they played in the Orange Bowl.
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My Point
My point, which was probably not communicated well enough, was that there would be more excitement about going to a BCS bowl for Alabama, rather than UGA fans. Again, it is important to remember that outside of the automatic bids for the BCS game, the next most important thing for the BCS bowls is getting the teams that will provide the most revenue.
I just think, even if all things were equal, most bowls, specifically the Sugar Bowl would take Alabama over UGA this year. I am writing that because of the relative disappointment that UGA fans would feel over playing in any bowl that was not the Orange Bowl (BCS Championship). Alabama fans would obviously be excited about playing in any BCS bowl because of the length of time since we have played in one, and because of the relative expectations coming into this season.
All of this in my opinion would create more revenue for whatever bowl took Alabama, rather than UGA.
I get...
…what you’re saying. That’s certainly a valid point to look at because whether anyone wants to admit it or not, beyond the national championship game the whole goal of the BCS is to make boatloads of money for everyone involved. The committees have to be cognizant of the impact a team’s fans will have on the local economies hosting the bowls and in that respect Alabama fans are known for their travel.
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Great Synopsis by AuditDawg and TankerToad
IMHO, the current 9-2 ledger the Dawgs own is not as impressive as it appears. The BCS is not lost on the fact that UGA had two golden opportunities to cement their position as a BCS bowl contender against Bama and the Gators. Not only did we lose those games, but we lost big (say what you want about final score against Bama; you just don’t let a team get up on you by 4 scores to nil at home…in the first half). Couple that with anemic defensive performances against teams like Kentucky and Auburn and the writing is on the wall. I think the true fan in us will always ponder the “What if” scenarios in hopes that things will fall our way. But it should say something about our value as a team to the BCS when are reduced to such scenarios. When the Dawgs win out (I won’t say if because I’m forever the optimist), we’ll take our 10-2 team to the Capital One Bowl and will play a worthy opponent (Stewie Mandel has us playing Michigan State; I’m interested to see if Willie can get the boys up to stop Mr. Ringer).
Great Discussion!
For the record I don’t think that the Dawgs are deserving of a BCS bid, our 9-2 this year is a repackaged 6-5 because of sheer talent. What I was saying in my initial post is that HISTORICALLY (whether it’s right , wrong, or indifferent) the loser of a Conference Championship game has not gone on to the BCS. Heck UT ended up in the Outback Bowl last year.
Assume (and I hate to do that anyway, but even more so with this defense) that we beat Tech and end up 10-2. Utah and BYU play this weekend (assuming a BYU win) Utah is out. Assuming Florida wins out and beats Alabama, and Texas Tech wins over Oklahoma on Saturday night and beats Missouri in the Big 12 CG.
BCS- Florida v Texas Tech
Orange-Maryland ( ACC,just for grins) v Cinncinati (Big East)
Fiesta-Texas/Oklahoma v At large
Rose-USC v Penn St
Sugar-Alabama v at large
Basically there are 2 at large positions available….citing BCS rules that 3 teams from one conference can’t be chosen you have to figure that the awful Big 10 will get the Suckeyes in somehow and then you have a quandry on who gets the final slot…BYU with one loss? TCU? Boisie St?
Mystery solved
The BCS added a rule a year two ago to their selection process guaranteeing an at-large bid to the highest ranked non-BCS conference team, provided they are in the top 12 of the final standings (or top 16, if there are any BCS conference champs outside the top 16, where the Big East and ACC champs stand a good chance of placing). Utah and Boise State are already in the top 12, and BYU (at #14) would probably move in if they defeat Utah, so an at-large spot is virtually guaranteed for a mid-major at this point, as it is for the SEC runner-up and someone from the Big 12.
The fourth at-large spot will go to the Big 10 runner-up (OSU or PSU, depending on this weekend’s action) except in one case—if Oregon State wins their last two games they would win the Pac 10 auto-bid, and USC would be a virtual shoo-in for a BCS at-large spot unless they lose somewhere along the way.
It's not going to happen
. . . It would take a blowout in the SECCG and a truly dominating performance against Tech (considering how unimpressive we’ve been thus far, a drubbing akin to the GT-Cumberland game might almost be good enough to salvage our deservedly flagging reputation). As I understand it, bowl selection committees take momentum into account when selecting teams; for instance, I was under the impression that our run against Auburn and Tech to close out 2006 secured us that Peach Bowl berth. So if the SECCG loser loses big (we’re talking “vs. Georgia” big . . . ouch, that’s painful to say) and we massacre Tech 222-0, we might have a long shot at it.
Thinking about it now, it would tickle me to no end for Bama to stomp Florida and for the Sugar Bowl to take us over them. Not expecting it to happen, though. Besides, it’s becoming an SEC tradition to close out your season by stomping tOSU in a bowl game, and somehow I think it would be more satisfying to play a worthy opponent close in a top tier bowl than be the fall guys for the “BCS buster” game for the second year in a row.
BCS?
Based on the way this season has played out I’m not sure I would want to see them in a BCS game – I’d rather win a lesser bowl than lose a BCS bowl. Yeah you are right – I don’t have a lot of faith in this team performing.
I am concerned they go to a lesser bowl - and dont take it seriously
they have played for two years now with a chip on their shoulder….they just havent been a team and we should beat Mich St handily, but if they show up with a “we deserve better than this” attitude, or a “we are so much better than them” attitude, it may not be pretty in a lesser bowl either.
I can't believe anyone on the team or the coaching staff . . .
. . . thinks this team has earned a B.C.S. bowl bid, and they learned last year that there’s a simple way to eliminate this concern: win.
Georgia and Florida met for a winner-take-all battle in Jacksonville with everything—-certainly the Eastern Division crown, and the chance for a whole lot more—-on the table. The Gators performed and the Bulldogs wilted. A few bad breaks had them down 14-3 at halftime of a game in which they had played Florida fairly evenly but failed to finish the drill. Rather than recognize that they were still in the game, the Red and Black folded in the second half and got blown out in a game in which they had been competitive. They sacrificed the right to complain, period.
Rather than worry about postseason destinations, though, we need to be focused on something more important and more immediate: Georgia Tech is coming to town one week from Saturday and Georgia had better be ready. No one needs to be thinking about New Year’s Day; our focus needs to be on the Saturday after Thanksgiving. We’ll get what we deserve after that, one way or the other.
Go 'Dawgs!

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