Week Eleven BlogPoll Ballot Revised
Ere I get to my BlogPoll ballot revisions this Armistice Day---while we honor all veterans here, my grandfather fought in World War I, so, out of respect for his memory, I will continue to refer to it by its original name---I feel the need to comment on Dr. Saturday’s recent observation regarding the shooting deaths in Alabama.
Evidently, Shannon Odom, the half-brother of one of the victims (and, I guess, the half-brother-in-law of the other), thought it important to respond to accounts that his relatives had been L.S.U. boosters by setting the record straight: "My brother was an adamant Alabama fan." This led Dr. Saturday to note dryly:
You can report on the details of two terrible, untimely, tragically pointless deaths if you must. But the family will be damned if they're going to let you malign them as LSU fans.
Now, I get where the good Doc is coming from on this one, and, sure, it may seem to some that Shannon Odom picked a silly point to emphasize in the midst of his grief, but I can’t exactly fault him for saying what he said about his half-brother. If I am ever shot to death following a football game (which, let’s face it, isn’t as far outside the realm of probability as I would like to think, and which most likely wouldn’t even be the worst futures bet you’ve ever made) and initial news reports refer to me as a Clemson, Florida, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Tennessee, or (especially) Auburn fan, every last one of you had better e-mail, call, and text-message the news outlet in question to state unequivocally that I was Bulldog born and Bulldog bred and, when I got shot, I was Bulldog dead. If any of you don’t, I promise you I will find out where you live and my spirit will haunt you. Also, if I’m accused of being an Auburn fan, you’d better tell the press, "He hated Auburn."

As far as my preliminary BlogPoll ballot was concerned, I received a number of good constructive criticisms, for which I am most grateful. For one thing, drothgery pointed out the inconsistency of ranking Missouri ahead of Oklahoma State, since they have the same record, they play in the same conference, and the Cowboys went on the road and beat the Tigers head to head. I just flat dropped the ball on that one, so I thank wino1618 for making a persuasive case regarding where to rank Missouri relative to Georgia, Ohio State, and Oklahoma State.
With respect to the higher-rated teams on my ballot, both kerouacinjapan and Texan_Dawg offered reasoned arguments for placing Texas ahead of Florida and FSUncensored advocated dropping all of the mid-majors. While I understand the latter argument, I don’t know with whom to replace them, so they stayed put (except for B.Y.U., on whom I bailed anew), but the Longhorns were bumped up based upon the points offered on their behalf.
Finally, hound dog wanted to know how the Bayou Bengals fell out of the top 25 after taking Alabama to overtime. Although I had an answer for that, I decided I didn’t buy my own justification, so L.S.U. stayed in the poll, just ahead of the Gamecocks.
Consequently, my revised BlogPoll ballot looks like this:
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| Rank | Team | Delta |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Alabama | -- |
| 2 | Texas Tech | -- |
| 3 | Texas | 2 |
| 4 | Florida | -- |
| 5 | Oklahoma | 1 |
| 6 | Southern Cal | 1 |
| 7 | Utah | 2 |
| 8 | Penn State | 5 |
| 9 | Boise State | 1 |
| 10 | Ohio State | 3 |
| 11 | Oklahoma State | 3 |
| 12 | Georgia | 2 |
| 13 | Missouri | 1 |
| 14 | North Carolina | 1 |
| 15 | Ball State | 3 |
| 16 | Michigan State | 3 |
| 17 | Cincinnati | 7 |
| 18 | Pittsburgh | 5 |
| 19 | TCU | 8 |
| 20 | Florida State | 6 |
| 21 | Virginia Tech | 5 |
| 22 | Oregon State | 3 |
| 23 | LSU | 6 |
| 24 | South Carolina | 2 |
| 25 | Georgia Tech | 5 |
Once again, my thanks go out to all of the commenters who left thoughtful and critical feedback which helped to clarify my thinking and improve the quality of my ballot. Nice job, everyone.
Go ‘Dawgs! Auburna delenda est!
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Please explain
King-
While I may have missed this in your original blog poll post, I was wondering the justification for having Alabama and number 1 over Texas Tech.
Alabama has only really had one marquee game half all season. They’ve struggled against opponents that a “number one” team should be blowing out. The beat a completely over hyped Clemson, squeaked by Kentucky, ole miss, LSU while handling the bottom feeders of the SEC Arkansas and Tennessee.
I’m sure you are well aware of Tech’s recent resume, so how come they are number 2? And why do you think the voters have them at number 2 as well? I’m sure this would change if they beat OU this weekend regardless of what Bama does…. right??
by knowshon loves legos on
Nov 12, 2008 10:03 AM EST
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Because, we're not a team built...
to “blow people out”. We’re designed to physically punish you, make mistakes, and then take advantage of those mistakes: And we do it better (arguably) than anyone in the country. It’s paleolithic football, but it’s what has won the longest at every level of the game.
by Stuck in the Plains on
Nov 12, 2008 11:32 AM EST
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It’s obvious that Bama, and the SEC play a different game than the air-assault of the Big-12. And that the fun and gun offenses could result in 56-50 games as well as 56-10 “blowout” games. My only argument is the competition Bama has played. Through no fault of their own, they’ve only beaten two “good” SEC teams. And only physically dominated one, for one half. LSU outplayed/played up to Bama and was only hurt by their quarterback’s penchant for throwing a dumptruck’s worth of INT’s. I think that if TTech beats OU they deserve to be number one no doubt. By beating OU, you are beating a team who has been scoring 60 per game per 3 quarters, and thus showing you have at least some shred of a defense (unless the final score is 70-69)
Alabama’s team doesn’t seem to be dominating opponents as Florida does right now (on all three sides of the ball). If Bama can keep up with the Gators in the SEC, they’ll have a good chance to do it again with Tech.. But I don’t think either are the case.
You’re statement leads me to believe that you think Bama should be ranked number 1 because they come from the SEC, where low-scoring, knuckle-dragging, hurt-til-wednesday type games are played every week. This would also imply that the Tech’s wins against number 1 Texas and number 8 OK St are not as great as Bamas over 3 UGA and 15ish LSU. Personally, I think they are.
I refuse to get into an argument about the power of the SEC this year over Big 12, I’m tired of reading about it and thinking about it. But based on resume, Tech deserves the spot. Georgia wasn’t winning convincingly at the beginning of the season and they paid the price in the polls. How come this isn’t the same case for Alabama. Or why isn’t Tech rewarded for blowing out top ten competition?
by knowshon loves legos on
Nov 12, 2008 11:59 AM EST
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Fair question
Three points, for whatever they are worth:
1. Texas Tech’s biggest wins (over Texas and Oklahoma State) came at home. Alabama’s biggest wins (over Clemson, Georgia, and L.S.U.) came at a neutral site or on the road.
2. Alabama’s biggest win (over Georgia) was a dominating performance in which the Crimson Tide led 31-0 at halftime. Texas Tech’s biggest win (over Texas) was secured with a touchdown on the final play of the game.
3. Texas Tech has played two Division I-AA opponents. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe Alabama has played any, and the Tide certainly have not played more than one.
I simply have a hard time dropping the No. 1 team in the nation after a win in Death Valley in a rivalry game, especially given the extra heat given to the rivalry because of Nick Saban’s first trip back to Baton Rouge. That said, if the Red Raiders remain undefeated after facing Oklahoma, they will take over the top spot on my ballot.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on
Nov 12, 2008 12:43 PM EST
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You did see...
… the Georgia-Kentucky game, right? Or the Alabama-Georgia game? Or the Georgia-LSU game? Or the Florida-LSU game? Or the Florida-Georgia game? Or even the Mississippi-Florida game? Just to name a few shootouts in the SEC this year.
by drothgery on
Nov 12, 2008 5:35 PM EST
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shootouts?
When you refer to the Florida-LSU game and Florida-Georgia game as “shootouts” what exactly do you mean?
by skigator93 on
Nov 13, 2008 3:34 PM EST
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Agreed
Tech’s wins at home and margin of “dominance” may hamper this debate.
Tech did dominate that game from start to finish. I think even Texas fans were wondering how in the world they were leading with a couple minutes to go. I think the coach even mentioned it afterwards, can’t be sure if i read that somewhere or not. I know he made a comment about leaving too much time on the clock for Tech. Something like 90 seconds?… too much? that’s saying something
Bama may not have played I-AA, but wins against 2-7 Tulane and 2-8 West KY are pretty comparable.
Regardless, win next week and there is defiantly a case for number 1 status, not that it matters… win out and you’ll be there. I’m just sayin, for appearance sake, it’s nice to be number 1. I feel like they deserve it.
by knowshon loves legos on
Nov 12, 2008 1:02 PM EST
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Also
I’m sure you’ve seen it, but Doc Sat has an interesting post about Tech taking over his number 1 spot. The post is full of numbers and stats and what-not, if you’re into that kind of stuff.
by knowshon loves legos on
Nov 12, 2008 1:04 PM EST
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