So everybody thinks UGA fans are whiny, huh?
by wqueenjr on Oct 24, 2008 7:14 PM EDT
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If Oklahoma and Texas win out, and Penn State and Alabama each lose a game, is there any BCS regulation preventing an Oklahoma-Texas rematch in the BCS championship game?
--Jason Denis, Cochrane, Alberta
Nope.
That's from Stewart Mandel's mailbag for this week.
And I also just heard Robert (is it Smith?) on College Football Live respond to a viewer e-mail by saying that he didn't have a problem with Oklahoma facing Texas in the BCS championship game if they both won out.
Did I miss something? Aren't Oklahoma and Texas in the same division in the Big 12? Doesn't that mean that if Texas wins out, Oklahoma couldn't win their division (and vice versa)? And didn't every pundit and his brother say just last season that Georgia shouldn't be in the title game BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WIN ITS OWN DIVISION, MUCH LESS ITS OWN CONFERENCE?
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dude...
…as much as i hate when Mandel posts crap like this, and it does make me wonder why Georgia’s scenario last year was so quickly tossed aside last year. However, before I get accused of being a homer in my assessments, I personally believe that Georgia had no right to play in the BSC championship game last year, and I don’t think the team that doesn’t win the Big 12 south should even be considered for the BSC championship.
This is what the “world wide leader” gets when they allowed Herbstreit to campaign for a Michigan-Ohio State rematch in 2006. After the game at the Horseshoe that year, he must have spent every chance he got to advocate for what he called, a “once in a lifetime championship.” he just got caught up in the grandeur of the “gruppiest conference in america” and did what any homer would do.
These kind of sentiments are dangerous, because opinions matter in college football. Pollsters place teams based on who they ‘think’ is the superior team, and if all you hear every day on espn is that “yeah, Michigan didn’t win their conference, but they only lost to the number one team” instead of “Michigan didn’t win its conference, they shouldn’t even be considered…” that tends to sway your ballot some what.
Getting off my soap box now…
Agreed
This has been the fly in the B.C.S. ointment too many times now, and it is a gaping loophole that needs to be closed.
Nebraska didn’t win its conference in 2001. The national championship game berth opposite Miami (Florida) should have gone to Oregon.
Oklahoma didn’t win its conference in 2003. The national championship game berth opposite L.S.U. should have gone to U.S.C.
Michigan didn’t win its conference in 2006. The national championship game berth opposite Ohio State properly went to Florida.
Georgia didn’t win its conference in 2007. The national championship game berth opposite Ohio State properly went to L.S.U.
It simply makes no sense to say that a team that didn’t win its conference championship ought to be allowed to play for the national championship. You can’t be the best team in the country if you aren’t the best team in your league. That’s like being the tallest guy in your neighborhood without being the tallest guy in your household. It just plain doesn’t add up and the cognitively dissonant results it produces ought not to be countenanced.
There’s an easy way to fix this: only conference champions are eligible to play for the national title, period. I’m O.K. with the idea that this may include a Mountain West champion Utah squad or a W.A.C. champion Boise State squad. I’m O.K. with the idea that this may exclude independents like Notre Dame. It’s basic common sense, it would foreclose these sorts of arguments, and it would legitimize the B.C.S. It’s long overdue.
Go 'Dawgs!
Agreed.
I think most people agree that no conference championship = no BCS championship game. The BCS conferences without championship games (Rose Bowl guys) need to add the championship game. It’s silly to think that in the Big 10, 2 teams could feasibly go undefeated. One would be the conference champ (I think they decide it on who has gone longest since last championship) and the other is shut out.
It is pathetic to see the media continually flip-flop their views
based on what teams are involved
How can Douchebag Herb say that UM/OSU should be in the NCG one year yet then say UGA shouldn’t be in it because they didn’t win their conference the next?
Can someone explain that to me?
Here's your explanation
Because Herbie went to OSU and knew that their only chance of winning a national championship with that team would be against another big 10 patsy. He knew that if they faced an SEC or Big 12 Team, they would get their clock cleaned. See Exhibit A – 2006 and Exhibit B – 2007.
If PSU runs the table this year and gets shut out of the big game, they can send a “thanks a lot” card to OSU!
Where were these guys last year?
Another voice mentioning the possibility of Oklahoma in the title game, Pat Forde of ESPN.com:
Doomsday Scenario 4: A team that doesn’t win its conference — or even its division — plays for the title. That could be Oklahoma, lurking at No. 4 in the BCS. If Penn State falls, or Texas loses badly to Missouri in the Big 12 title game, or the SEC cannibalizes itself, the Sooners still have a chance of slipping in. The Big 12 owns the patent on backing into a title game. Last time a team did that it was Nebraska in 2001, and the Cornhuskers rewarded the system by being routed by Miami in an anticlimactic title game. Oklahoma also played for the title in 2003 after being housed by Kansas State in the Big 12 championship game.
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